Posts by DannyBear

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What if the Watchtower Changed .......

by IslandWoman in

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if the watchtower changed it's blood doctrine to one where publishers could do what their conscience dictated without fear of reprisals from the brothers, if they also quit using the two witness rule and said all criminal accusations must be reported to the police, if they stopped shunning, if they said all df and da'd could associate with their friends and family, if they apologized to ray franz and all others who were hurt by their policies; would exjws respect their dogma and refrain from putting down their religious beliefs to their faces?.

this is an important question, more important than you know.

iw

DannyBear

IW,

They have abandoned very few real 'core' beliefs. Kicking and screaming they admit to shades of error regarding 1914, 1975, and other tenants like 'abstenance from blood', yet either thru manipulation of scripture, or simple backpedaling via the convenient 'new light', they stick to thier guns.

Why? Because if they renege on the practice of shunning, just how will they 'keep the congregation clean'? What discipline could they administer for those who verbalise and promote an alternative view of doctrine, let alone violate god's laws or perform any number of 'pornia' or deviations, they so much like to rant about. Shunning is the basis, the foundation, of being and continuing to be a jw. Remember shunning is all encompasing it also is the basis for thier wierd idea about 'marking' individuals and whole families within the congregations.

IW you can't surgically remove shunning or any select egregious practice, and end up with a reciepe for continued fanatical preach at all costs.....jw's are know for.

Take away those critical tools, the machine will fizzel to a halt. Nothing left to keep the troops in line.

Danny

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What if the Watchtower Changed .......

by IslandWoman in

jw
friends

if the watchtower changed it's blood doctrine to one where publishers could do what their conscience dictated without fear of reprisals from the brothers, if they also quit using the two witness rule and said all criminal accusations must be reported to the police, if they stopped shunning, if they said all df and da'd could associate with their friends and family, if they apologized to ray franz and all others who were hurt by their policies; would exjws respect their dogma and refrain from putting down their religious beliefs to their faces?.

this is an important question, more important than you know.

iw

DannyBear

Great thread IW.

The changes you and others have suggested would literally destroy the 'brotherhood'. Since the days of Charles Taze it is in fact the communal nature of jw's that reenforces the need for doctrine that sets them 'apart from the world'.

Door to door, 5 meetings a week, conscientious objections to war and involvement with politics, shunning, the list is endless,.......all priming the pumps of self delusional, elitist, us (jw's) against the world. Take enough of these bastions or building blocks of the WTBS away.......they no longer have a reason to exsist. Pray tell.

Hell the consessions made regarding 1914, blood, and a few other minor deviations, have wreaked a tremendous toll already on the coffer's of Patterson/Brooklyn. They know any capitulation of core beliefs would spell the end.

I believe the hardliner's will continue to prevail. Reform of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses is a pipe dream.

Danny

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Judging by thier fridge!

by unclebruce in

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g'day fellow food and wine buffs, .

i'm looking after an eco-tour lodge/guesthouse at the moment while the owners are in melbourne attending a wedding.

now this is a big house resting on fifty or so of the prettiest acres overlooking the saphire coast.

DannyBear

Dear Innkeeper,

Who cares what's in the fridge.....the library is worthy of a visit in itself. Geez man you find the most interesting things to do.

I have a suspicion that your neighbors realize the benefit of having a Unc care for thier business while gone. Careful Lee you may have to give up your 'tea room' in lieu of a new job offer from the 'giants'. One thing ex-pioneer types can do is, make people feel at home. I surely would pay the $100 or more a nite for the stay as your guest.

Great story.....thanks for sharing.

Mom always said the mold on cheese was like a natural penicilin......so I never worry about every bit of green left......good for what ails ya.

All hail to the next Conrad Hilton.

Danny

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DannyBear, I miss seeing your post. Heck, I miss you. :)

by WildHorses in

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if you are still reading the forum, i hope you see this post.

i just have a different screen name.

if you can't figure out who i am by this post, just send me a private message and i will tell you.. a friend, always

DannyBear

Teeny,

Thanks, doing fine. I see you have returned.....hard to stay away to long.

Regards to you

Danny

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DannyBear, I miss seeing your post. Heck, I miss you. :)

by WildHorses in

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if you are still reading the forum, i hope you see this post.

i just have a different screen name.

if you can't figure out who i am by this post, just send me a private message and i will tell you.. a friend, always

DannyBear

Shari you little wanton hussy!

Remind me to never choose you to give a subtle hint. How you doing girl? Hope your business is expanding on plan.

This little love fest, has made my morning.

Big Bear (((((((())))))))'s

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DannyBear, I miss seeing your post. Heck, I miss you. :)

by WildHorses in

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if you are still reading the forum, i hope you see this post.

i just have a different screen name.

if you can't figure out who i am by this post, just send me a private message and i will tell you.. a friend, always

DannyBear

***{{{{{}}}}} Wonderful to WITNESS you, again. ***

Skally your sense of humor mixed with your passion(s) will carry you through all the shitey stuff you have experienced in life!

Was glad to read that you are relaxing a bit. Lady, life is tough enough without adding WITNESS bullpucky to the mix, don't we all know!

Gumman,

You be bad.....but I must admit my writing (wild stuff) can't hold a candel to that 'bush'man traipsing arpund here. Somehow Lee can tell you to go f 'yourself', yet make you want more of the same. He is the Aussie version of George Carlin being nice.

Wildhorses,

I sent you a PM but like Skally suggested I checked my sent mail and it is not there. So i was not ignoring you....will try again.

Danny

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I lost my sister today

by teejay in

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my mother has six children, all of whom she raised in the truth.

over the years, all of us (with the exception of my older brother) have either left the org behind or got df'd and never bothered to return.

today, out of the blue, my baby sister emailed me to say that she's back to attending all the meetings and even when out in service last saturday.

DannyBear

*** It's so freakin' sad, seeing her still held so mentally captive. It's got me shakin' my head... it really has***

Your comment simply sums up the whole enchilada as regards our loved ones still held captive by the 'iron fist' of watchtowerism. Trying to pry those steely fingers free after rigor mortis sets in ofter requires some breaking of bones. More painful for the doctor than the patient.

Uncle, did your mom scare the piss out of you? Are you now dusting off the ole bookbag, checking the tire pressure on your bycicle? Got your little black book with return visits all laid out? Hey remember you now only have to get 15min in the witness work to remain in good standing. Hell man remember the days when we huffed and puffed out 100+ a month.

DannyBearly keeping from upchucking breakfast over tj's loss.

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DannyBear, I miss seeing your post. Heck, I miss you. :)

by WildHorses in

jw
friends

if you are still reading the forum, i hope you see this post.

i just have a different screen name.

if you can't figure out who i am by this post, just send me a private message and i will tell you.. a friend, always

DannyBear

Thanks for the help Ang. Did finally figure out the message deal.

Watch out for that 'bush'man aka uncleB I have heard that legends exsist, often told around Aboriginal campfires, something to do with 'how many sheep can a sheepshearer shear in ONE night' kinda thing.......while riding a Harley at 100 miles an hour.

Damn Uncle just when I thought 'political correctness' was on the wane, you get all 'poofy' on me.[i] of course love you whatever end of the bike you choose.

Now that I have pissed you, Ang, and Wildhorses off by my surly comments, I better stop before some other Ozzie or English gent takes offense.

All kidding aside guys, thanks for the shout.

Danny

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DannyBear, I miss seeing your post. Heck, I miss you. :)

by WildHorses in

jw
friends

if you are still reading the forum, i hope you see this post.

i just have a different screen name.

if you can't figure out who i am by this post, just send me a private message and i will tell you.. a friend, always

DannyBear

Hey,

Thanks for thinking of me. I have no idea who you were in your former cyber life???? Can't even fathom a guess.

If I can figure out how to leave a message I will do so!

Danny

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I lost my sister today

by teejay in

jw
friends

my mother has six children, all of whom she raised in the truth.

over the years, all of us (with the exception of my older brother) have either left the org behind or got df'd and never bothered to return.

today, out of the blue, my baby sister emailed me to say that she's back to attending all the meetings and even when out in service last saturday.

DannyBear

Dang my first post on this new forum....sorry for the repeat.

Tj,

Maybe she is insuring her ability to have contact with the entire clan. From what little you posted of her email, she doesn't seem to be aspiring to some unreachable godlike sprituality....as most jdubs seem to want.

As long as she keeps an open door to you.......thats a good a thing.

My daughter's (good little dubs) are doing so with me. Thanks for that.

Take care brother.

Danny