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Christianity promotes a helpless victim mentality...
by logansrun in
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2. bible
i'm going to be a man of few words here.

christianity, in it's truest, fundamentalist form, promotes an unhealthy and non-productive victim mentality.

the christian feels helpless on his own -- condemned by sin and absolutely unworthy.
DannyBear

I just finished reading every word of this thread...........Iam to worn out to reply, but I did learn one important fact about being "Christ like";
****An artist Christian couple I hang out with told me I was more "Christ like" in their eyes than most Christians they knew. That was of coarse after the forth or fifth drink. I'm a nice person and treat people fairly and keep a very open mind. I don't see anything "Christ like" in that but they were buying the drinks, who was I to argue.****
So be open minded, treat people nice, and Christian's will buy ya a drink.......works for me.
Danny who will be trying to be "Christ like" every Friday nite.
Danny
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The Scriptures
by KGB in
1. jw
2. friends
the scriptures are some of the oldest books in the world known to man with dates included now how do you suppose that can be, that these books have survived this long, many thousands of years ?

hmmmmmm i don't see any other book on the shelf as long as this book not even any other history book as far as that goes, now i wonder why a book that supposedly is nothing more than a lie or uninspired as some of you put it would survive that long.

i wonder how christianity has lasted as long as it has if it is all just a lie.
DannyBear

pinoy,
****People were burned for owning a bible. The burnings were led by the catholic church. (Inquisition)****
Although the bible was considered to be the domain of 'authorized' readers (priests, scribes, or assigned copiers) to say that those burned at the stake were convicted because of owning a bible, is a little over the top.
The persecution of 'heretics' was promulgated by much more sinster motives than you describe. Often those persecuted were just a little to outspoken, or politicaly incorrect. Or just didn't kiss ass according to the proscribed way of the day.
As for the reasons you suggest;
Are they afraid that people would know that the name of God is Jehovah?
Are they afraid that people would know that it is wrong to use idols?
Are they afraid that people would know that early christians never celebrated their birthdays?
Are they afraid that people would know that shepherds were tending their flocks when Jesus was born, and therefore it could not happen on a winter?

I hardly think those issues were of any concern, as respects the withholding of easy access to the bible.

No I tend to think it was simply a matter of power and control. Knowledge is always the enemy of those who try and dictate policy. Most of the points you make above, do not hold up under scrutiny. No where in the bible does God forbid the celebration of birthdays (Rutherford invented this doctrine), Jesus virgin birth is up for review and by no means a solid fact of history. Christians have used symbols for centuries, to ascribe scriptural condemnation to the Catholics for statues of saints, is again one of those jw inspired hangups. God's name a whole discussion in itself.

Catholics are notorious for trying to dictate(so are the jdubs)......they are getting more adept in their old age though,Catholics that is.

Danny

Our argument finall settled....with the Bible!

by bikerchic in

every morning craig and i have this same arguement, but i finally settled it and with his own bible!.

we start every morning having this argument about who should brew the coffee each morning.. .

i say, "you should do it, because you get up first, and then we don't have to wait as long to get our coffee.".

DannyBear

I've heard rumors about people living up there in the 'great northwest'........see that little setting next to the clock on the coffee pot that says 'start Hebrewing time'........now just set the time, and you can both wake up to freshly brewed cup, without any anxiety.

5am at my house.....I always get the first two....

What was Fullfilled in 1975?

by refiners fire in

jw
friends

as we all know, the lord jehovah causes expectation to arise regarding certain dates.

these expectations have usually resulted in the members of the organization, erroneously, expecting the apocalypse to arrive on those dates.

1914 was such a year.

DannyBear

***1975.....What great spiritual event occured in that year? ***

The only spiritual event I ascribe to this, is when listening to Freddie give one of his long drawn out, dramatic, ear piercing, drooling, word articulation. It used to send spiritual shiver's up my spine!

Actually I was more embarrased for him, us, we and them that had to sit through it!

Danny

The Scriptures

by KGB in

jw
friends

the scriptures are some of the oldest books in the world known to man with dates included now how do you suppose that can be, that these books have survived this long, many thousands of years ?

hmmmmmm i don't see any other book on the shelf as long as this book not even any other history book as far as that goes, now i wonder why a book that supposedly is nothing more than a lie or uninspired as some of you put it would survive that long.

i wonder how christianity has lasted as long as it has if it is all just a lie.

DannyBear

Since the bible was not even available in printed format until approx 550 yrs ago (by Willard Scotts time table a little over 5 lifetimes ago) one can very assuredly argue, that for over 4,500 yrs of man exsistance, the average joe schmo had no access to the bible or any portion of it.

They may have heard someone (who could read) recite certain passages, or have heard someone read verbatim from a scroll or piece of clay.........to claim the bible is the oldest writings available to mankind in general is simply not telling the truth.

Even after Gutenberg's first printint in 1455, only the most wealthy, only those sanctioned by the church were even allowed to caste a gaze upon the book.

Since when does being old make any difference when deciding it's authenticity?

Danny

Ps;

Speaking of time.....don't you find it strange that up until the printing and mass distribution of the bible, there was basically one 'universal' christian religion (catholic)? All of sudden any Russell, Rutherford, Franz, could come along and invent their own religion........stange how that all worked isn't it?

Christendom took on a whole new meaning when the bible became available to anyone and everyone. Maybe God should have kept the whole thing under tighter wraps?

Count your blessings

by DannyBear in

jw
friends

this was just forwarded to me.......thought it was pretty good;

>> you are ahead of 500 million people in the world.

>> blessed than over two billion people in the world that cannot.

DannyBear

Seven,

Uncle has this incidious knack of being able to give me a 'whack' (unlike other whacker's) and I always come back for more. I just miss the ole bastard.

You seem to have staying power........glad to see you around as well.

Uncle,

California wine maker's are snobs for the most part.......'our **** don't stink' kind of attitude. So I rekon that sending you cuttings might be high on the list of no, no's from the border patrol types........if not Arnold Schwartengernegerner may have a 'word' or maybe two about it.

Now your gonna all educated, and carry little letter's after your name......whats an old jw pioneer reject like myself gonna do to compete?

Glad your expanding that already highly expanded brain of yours.

Love ya

Danny

if you still believe in the bible ... please tell me why

by frenchbabyface in

why i can't anymore : sorry for my poor english, but i've tried hard !!

since the beginning of the time, till the 19th century and more, most of stories and songs for kids, was made to scary them with a moral at the end.

to me, the bible is one of kind of that type of book (for children we are inside).

DannyBear

ClassAvenger,

Iam going to give it go.

Who told you it (the bible) is God's Word? When and how did you conclude that a conviction based on 'faith' could or should be considered A FACT?

There is not one single bit of evidence that the bible is what it claims to be. Only guesses, surmize, interpretations, and conjecture. Nothing solid, nothing that anyone who exercises common sense, or his/her reasoning abilities can point to, that proves that it is a message from God himself.

Now you can start spouting scripture, stories, history, as described in the bible.........but can't you see these have little to do with the real issue.....Inspired utterances from the creator himself, must stand on their own worth, simply because the author is who he is. Get it, there should be no question about his intent or meaning, there should be no ambiguity, no room for myriads of interpretations. If the bible is the work of god, it should resolve man's questions and anxieties. Instead it heaps coals of hatred, insights wars, strife of all sorts.

Atributing the bible to God, makes him part and parcel of the woes this man made compilation of 66 books has wrought on mankind for the last 2000 years.

If I were God.....I would make sure to have nothing to do with this book of derision and hate.

Danny

**** If you reject God's Word, aren't you rejecting God Himself?**** Can you see the circular reasoning in this question????????????

Count your blessings

by DannyBear in

jw
friends

this was just forwarded to me.......thought it was pretty good;

>> you are ahead of 500 million people in the world.

>> blessed than over two billion people in the world that cannot.

DannyBear

Lee,

****If you have designer food in the refrigerator, guchi clothes on your back, a poof overhead and a place for sheep ... you are bitchier than 75% of this world. ****

See ya can't get the watchtower outta your hair. No wonder Bro. Theocratic Ministry School Servant called on you to be substitute speaker every week.

You just read and then pulled your own material, right out of my qoute and POOF made it your own!!!!!!!!! To to funny uncle.

Gawd I miss you around these parts. The Gumby man is about the only one left around here with a sense of humor. Everyone else seems to be on some kind of mission, or harboring old wounds, or just harboring.

I keep churning out a few posts, hoping my daughter is reading, otherwise I would you join ya in the outback of these often desolate "discussion boards".........

Oh damn Iam just happy to know your still around Lee......good to hear from you.

Bear Hugs back at ya. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Unc)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Danny

if you still believe in the bible ... please tell me why

by frenchbabyface in

why i can't anymore : sorry for my poor english, but i've tried hard !!

since the beginning of the time, till the 19th century and more, most of stories and songs for kids, was made to scary them with a moral at the end.

to me, the bible is one of kind of that type of book (for children we are inside).

DannyBear

I will tell you what is perplexing.....WHY must bible believer's almost without fail, aquait the rejection of the bible as the inspired word of God, with rejection of God himself?????????

This tendancy is rampant, it is almost a given that when one questions the authenticity of the bible's claim, true believers will ASSUME the questioner is a fire breathing, satanic, evil, sin loving, athiest.

This smacks so of self righteous indignation, that it just confirms how gullible the majority of 'the sheep' really are.

Get a clue true believers.....not everyone who rejects the bible, is an athiest.

Danny

MY SWAN SONG

by northern girl in

jw
friends

about seven weeks ago i posted here for the first time.

in that post i said i'd like to be reinstated but felt it likely wouldn't happen because the shunning was too much for me.

well, my prayers have been answered and i am reinstated.

DannyBear

berylblue,

****FUTHERMORE (and no apologies for hijacking the thread), I am no longer going to be the understanding, over-analyzing patient nice girl when it comes to people who dick me over.

So there.

****

Congradulations on attaining this level of maturity. It is truly the only honest way to live/and let live. To many go about their lives, trying to please everyone and anybody........even those we have never seen or met. Enjoy your new found freedom. Danny