Hi and Welcome, Fusion.
---Dan
i have lurked for quite awhile (about 9 months) and just wanted to finally log on and get my first post.
i was raised in the truth.
i don't know how often i will get to post....i have a worldly mate and currently i am unable to post from home.
Hi and Welcome, Fusion.
---Dan
january 4, 2004
to: all congregations and traveling overseers
dear brothers,
LOL @ Bonezz
january 4, 2004
to: all congregations and traveling overseers
dear brothers,
Kg: The Scientologists do it
No kidding? What do they charge for this?
If the Society REALLY enforced something like this satire, and if say there would be maybe 75,000 enrolled in the US (recognizing that not everyone has a computer, and possibly one account per *family*), and they each paid $20 monthly (yeah, I know that's a bit high for dialup (except if you're an AOL person)), that's a cool 1.5 million bucks A MONTH!! Even more, if more enrolled.......let's see: 1.5 times 12 equals 18 million bucks a year income!!!
Of course, they'd work a cut-rate deal for bandwith, to keep their expenses at minimum, but the potential money is incredible........They'd also need an "IT" servant in each congregation, too, wouldn't they? LOL.
----:)) Dan
january 4, 2004
to: all congregations and traveling overseers
dear brothers,
yeah it does show how wierd the society are if ppl can sit and wonder if something like that is true
Well, I didn't intend to FOOL anybody with this satire, really.....(I don't think anybody who reads the WHOLE thing will still think it's "real")
Just a bit of satire, folks.
:) Dan
january 4, 2004
to: all congregations and traveling overseers
dear brothers,
Well, trying to cut and paste and it ain't working, not sure what I'm doing wrong......
---Dan
Edited to add: Well I finally got it uploaded.
january 4, 2004
to: all congregations and traveling overseers
dear brothers,
January 4, 2004
TO: ALL CONGREGATIONS AND TRAVELING OVERSEERS
Dear Brothers,
Seemingly overnight, the use and abuse of the Internet (or ?net? for short) has become a fact of life today for many in the developed world, and even in less developed areas. Many claim to really benefit from the wealth of information available, along with the Internet?s capabilities for electronic mail or ?email? for short. Large amounts of information, including pictures can be sent great distances at very minimal cost, adding to the attraction of the Internet for some users.
For many years the Society has published warnings about the dangers of the Internet. Both in print and through upbuilding talks at conventions and by traveling overseers, Jehovah?s people have been alerted to the pitfalls of this most modern means of communication and information. Sadly, some loyal servants of Jehovah have become corrupted in their thinking and have been led to apostasy, even to the point of trying to subvert others, based on what they foolishly read and believed from the net.
The Society has always been in the forefront of using new technologies. For example, Jehovah?s Witnesses were among the first to use portable, self-contained record players, utilizing them to spread the Kingdom message from door to door. The Society?s radio station, WBBR was used for many years also in Kingdom Service. But a question that many have been asking is this: ?Is there not some way that God?s servants can utilize the advantages of the net, without succumbing to the drawbacks, or being drawn into God-displeasing thinking??
Happily, the answer to this question is Yes. The Society is pleased to announce that, beginning in September 2004, the Society will become a fully-functional ISP (Internet Service Provider), under the appropriate name Hovah.net. Complete setup details will be provided to the elders in due time, but we are excited to share with you some of the faith-strengthening advantages this arrangement will provide, provided below in question-and-answer format.
Q: How will Hovah.net be different than the ISP I?m currently using?
A: The main difference new users will notice is that only the Society?s domains will be accessible (Wachtower.org for example). This will keep everyone free from the influence of evil apostates.
Q: With my present provider, I visit more websites than merely those provided by the Society. What will the advantages of Hovah.net be?
A: Experience has shown that unlimited Internet access is resulting in many brothers and sisters leaving the organization. Since Hovah.net will only connect with the Society?s websites, there will be no danger to anyone of reading anything on-line except what ?food? has been approved for consumption by the Governing Body.
Q: What about Email?
A: Upon completing a written application and oral testing before the elders, you will be issued a user name and password.
Q: Can I change my Email password?
A: No provisions have been made for this, since the elders will need to be able to access your private messages to insure all are complying with the guidelines for this marvelous provision.
Q: Can I keep my present ISP?
A: We believe the advantages and benefits of Hovah.net are such that everyone will want to take advantage of it. It seems best to begin this adjustment as soon as the access numbers are available in your area. Elders, Ministerial Servants, and Pioneers will be given 6 months to sign on for Hovah.net and to drop their present ISP. It is hoped that those setting the lead in the congregation will encourage others to follow their course. We are confident that loyal Christians will want to demonstrate their solidarity with others in the faith by adopting Hovah.net exclusively, so an additional six month period will be allowed for all in the congregation to sign up for Hovah.net and to drop their present ISP.
Q: How will Hovah.net affect shepherding calls?
A: Beginning in January, 2005 when shepherding calls are made, the elders will want to check on what ISP each member of the congregation is using. They will be asked to check on the bookmarks or ?favorites? that are found in that brother?s browser. Additional notes will be made, based on other factors, such as websites previously visited, as disclosed by the ?History? window.
Q: How helpful to my everyday life will Hovah.net be?
A: All that God-fearing Christians need on the net will be provided. A search engine will be included that will help the user, by asking for explanations as to why information on the search term is needed. In due time, the Society?s websites will include areas focusing on many needs, including those of the family. Examples are Employment Opportunities Listing (Janitorial/Landscaping/Carpet Cleaning); a handy Organizer website (keeping track of changing doctrine); and a fulfilling area called ?Let the Elders Know?, where users can enter why they weren?t at the meeting, suspicions about other congregation members, or for general confession, including gross sins*
We are confident that all will want to fully take advantage of this wonderful provision. Please be assured of our love, care, and strong interest in everything you do.
* Confessing gross sins will require a Judicial Committee
NOTE: The Presiding Overseer should see that this letter is read to the Congregation at the first Service Meeting and then posted on the Congregation?s Information Board.
time left:
18 hours 40 mins .
10-day listing .
The EBay seller offering the "$1,000" item above has several dozen other JW related items for sale, with catchy "Item Titles", mostly books (pricing looked more usual, if you will, than the NGO thing).
Here's a few of the "catchy" item titles describing stuff this guy is selling: (spelling and formatting by him)
WATCHTOWER Caught Sleeping With The U.eN.emy (discussed above)
WHY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES LIE IN COURT (Selling a Bergman book)
WATCHTOWER EXPOSED By Governing Body Member (Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz)
So a search on EBay for "Watchtower" yields 243 items from various sellers, "Jehovah" yields72. (many items are "service supplies" type stuff, but there's lots of stuff like the above)
Personally, I think it's great that Witnesses poking around EBay could be exposed to the ideas in these Item Titles (and in the greater-length descriptions)...like planting a seed.
Every little bit helps, eh?
My two cents.
----Dan
time left:
18 hours 40 mins .
10-day listing .
Well, "hats off" to whoever did that listing on EBay..... The essential thing in the EBay listing is the MESSAGE. A clever way to "advertise advertise advertise" if you get my meaning.......
Picture a dubbie encountering that listing and then checking out further: doing a Google search on "NGO" and "Jehovah's Witnesses"....he'll get pointed to LOTS of pages with more on this issue....
No way that auction is a serious one, IMHO......
---Dan
awesome movie...i am not that much of a johnny depp fan but he was absolutely brilliant in this...but his wonderful acting is not required to carry the whole movie.
it is extremely entertaining, and the special effects are excellent.. i was just wondering if anyone else had a chance to see it?
i hardly go to the theater any more (too many kids!!!
Very entertaining, IMHO. Johnny Depp was great, well done.
Ok, not much of a plot, etc. but if a you just want to relax, and laugh like a kid again, Its got my recommendation.
Remember what you paid for these comments.
---Dan
i am in a situation where my ex-wife left me.
i had survellaince done on her place by two members of my family.
this was done over a several month time frame.
Elsewhere: Why are you concerned about what the elders think? Isn't this between you and your ex? Unless the elders said "I DO" it is none of their business.
I agree wholeheartedly.
---Dan