in the end years i would.
after the public talk and after the tms.
in fact there would often be a mass exdous out of the door.
When we had no children I would sit through the whole lot & then 'take care of my responsibilities'
When we had 1 & then 2 children 'taking care of my responsibilities' bacame extreemly tiring. No-one wanted to help me out.
Eventually, the work load took it's toll (among other matters) & I just walked out of the hall, never to return again.
PS - we had some awful speakers. At times, even when just my wfe & I, we wanted to scream. You just wanted a beer, a bowl of crisps & the TV.
just for newbies, lurkers and as a reminder for all.
mary undertook a huge compilation of critical analysis of many of the key watchtower doctrinal points.
it can be downloaded as a 150mb pdf - only 2mb so won't kill your internet connection.
Very many thanks for this.
Some extreemly interesting & dare I say 'debatable' points in there.
J
if this has been posted, then i missed it... .
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They like to cover absolutely every aspect of life with the Qu from readers don't they.
How unbelievably & utterly controlling.
anyone who can turn their back on their flesh & blood sons and daughters, mothers and fathers fulfill this prophecy perfectly.. people who do this are utterly unloving & cruel.
it has lead thousands of people to feel issolated, alone & in many cases suicidal.
how can such a thing originate with god?.
Anyone who can turn their back on their flesh & blood sons and daughters, mothers and fathers fulfill this prophecy perfectly.
People who do this are utterly unloving & cruel. It has lead thousands of people to feel issolated, alone & in many cases suicidal. How can such a thing originate with god?
I'm no psycologist but I suggest that parents who can do this are not mentally right. They must have a screw loose or somehing. To most right thinking people taking such action is simply not an option. But these freaks glorify in it. Wearing it like a badge of honour as if they are actually doing it for god.
All such people disgust me.
Have a good look at yourselves. You are fulfilling scripture in all the wrong ways.
group c - england vs usa.
"englund!
" boom,boom - "englund!
I hope USA tear England a new one in that game.
Mon the yanks!
i would be interested in your opinion of the following:.
a friend told me about an incident that had happened in a neighbouring congregation.
she told me that a sister from the congregation needed to get back to work after a meeting but discovered that she was boxed in.
Whay are so many elders complete arseholes?
what's good a-ebody??
just thought i'd share this email with yall real quick.
it still amazes me that i was a jehovah's witness for 27 years and never thought twice about these types of talks other than i need to make sure my act is together when the end comes, and now i can't even read/hear it without getting mad.
I (and many others) foresaw that they would use the new 'family study night' as a big stick to beat the living s**t out of each other. Isn't it sad that they fulfill everyones expectations so predictably?
As for the 'burning bodies' bit. All I can say is - CULT.
The fearmongering that goes on among the 'happy people' really is astounding.
Lets talk about evrey conceivable depressing thing under the sun! Dying, the recession, what you're not doing in the truth, the graphic end of world content. Sheeesh! No wonder they are so misderable & depressed.
so i have been a jw for yyeeaarrrrs :o(.
but it just hit me tonight during the prayer.
all you ever hear during the prayer is,.
Jehovahs Witnesses have no reason to be happy.
One of the reasons I left was due to the overwhelmingly negaitive outlook of everyone that was my friend at the time. It's like they are addicted to misery. I began to see that this was how my non-jw family viewed me. As a really downbeat, negative person.
4 years later, I have had to stop my small children from attending the meetings because one of my kids (7) went on a rant about all sorts of stuff that simply shouldn't be on anyones mind, never mind a 7 year old. I'm hoping that I have saved her mental outlook from being damaged in years to come.
The Good news? Pffft. You can shove it right up your arse!
i will get to the big shocker that i read within the last year or two in a wt study article, so please bear with me... i am new to this forum and have been reading postings for several days now, and can relate totally to many of the issues that many ex-jw have.
i was raised "around" the truth and although my parents were never "dipped", they wouldn't allow us to celebrate holidays or stand for natl anthem (not that i care now).
so i basically had many of the pressures and stress that witness kids had growing up, but with no spiritual support, as we attended only a handful of meetings while my parents studied when i was 5or6.
Welcome mate.
I know a family that raised children as JW's although the parents never dedicated. An awfly confusing situation for the kids, in addition to other family problems. As adults, all of these 'kids' have problems, mental or otherwise. It has occured to me that those raised in the organisation don't have the same ability to free themselves easily. There seems to be a lot more hanging on to the notion that it still might be 'the truth'. This obviously leaves people in a bit of a limbo situation.
I'm glad you have chosen to break free. Always take in lots of information about the org and it's history. Remember, information (the truth) is what the WTS would like to hide. They do a good job of it as well. F**k them. Learn & grow.
whether you are new 'out' of the org or you have been out for a number of years, how does the org affect your life at the moment?.
how do you feel about the way the religion influences your life at the moment, even in the smallest ways?.
thanks.. please state how long you have been away from the religion if possible.. .
Same here mate. I go to the point of thinking I will never bring anything up in conversation - so I don't.
But after months of bottling stuff up, it ends in an argument,........again (old ground).
It's hard.
Got my kids away from the meetings though so I'm pleased about that.
It had to happen.
