Most elders would be insignificant, no-marks in the real world.
The authority they have is completely mishandled by most of them.
jambon1
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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?
by UnshackleTheChains ini ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!
what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?
have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.
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Are Beards becoming more acceptable due to decline in membership?
by UnshackleTheChains ini noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.
when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.
but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.
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jambon1
The fact that a set up exsists where grown men are/were checked for having facial hair is just bizarre. What a horrible set up to live in.
GROWN MEN.
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11-5-17 Warwick Protest Photos
by thebrokenkite inlet the reader use discernment:.
i was disfellowshipped in june of last year.
while i've been awake for nearly a year, i still often feel groggy.
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jambon1
The only video I could stand to look at showed a group of people that looked like a teenager on a hyped up, drunken night out that turned out to be shit - shouting lots of nonsense and over exaggerated ‘fun’ being had.
Guys making lots of noise and appearing overly passionate to make up for the lack of actual effective activism taking place. The ridiculous walk into the sprinklers is just stupid and I agree that it plays into the narrative you mentioned, that apostates are all crazy sons of bitches.
I’m not into this type of activism. I’m not into disruption or making loud noises. People will disagree but I find it counter productive & easily dismissed by witnesses.
If Watchtower are to be forced to wake up to their abuses and end them, it’ll not be because of this type of activism. It’ll be by thoughtful and considered dialogue with the authorities, current witnesses and Watchtower itself.
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“There’s nothing out there in the world for you...”
by Jules Saturn inhow would you guys react if or when you were told this phrase by a jw while having a conversation?
another phrase is “this world...” or “this system, like gum will chew you up and when it’s done with you, spit you right back out.”.
one i’ve been personally told was from a convert that had told me “whenever i speak to young ones that want to know if the grass is greener on the other side, i tell them i was a part of it.
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jambon1
Have had better experiences and more meaningful relationships than I ever had as a JW.
Over 10 years out.
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Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped
by UnshackleTheChains inwell.....they showed that shunning video again.
you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.
everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.
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jambon1
It's quite a fact that if you treat your kids like that then you're not worth shit as a person, never mind a parent.
Im glad they're ramping up this fucking shit in recent times because it'll turn the heads of any normal person.
Vile.
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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?
by Jules Saturn inwhat are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?
are you a born again christian?
have you joined another denomination of christianity?
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jambon1
I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way.....
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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention
by UnshackleTheChains inyes folks.
over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.
most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.
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jambon1
Sorry if it's off topic but here's what some feel about the 'non hard line' convention this year.
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Phone call with a disfellowshipped relative
by Jules Saturn inso i call my grandfather who has been inactive for several decades and he's at vacation in puerto rico.
the conversation is normal, we talk about how he's doing down there and how i am doing.
then he tells me that my cousin who i haven't seen in 5 years, is with him and asks if i would like to speak to him; i said yes.
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jambon1
Great to hear of people breaking up bad ideas. Can't imagine how hard it is to be ignored. So cruel. Well done you.
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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention
by UnshackleTheChains inyes folks.
over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.
most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.
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jambon1
Through the eyes of a child I'm pretty sure it's at least frightening and it engenders the aspect of fear/death that witnesses like to promote. Not good.
I disagree with your assessment on witnesses homophobia. They'll never publicly accept the lifestyle in any way. Even if what you suggest happens, it still does little for those who will forever be assured that they cannot 'cone out' and be accepted by their family.
You can dress these things up all you like. The fact is that witnesses are scaremongering homophobes and I don't accept that the material mentioned above is not 'hard line'.
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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention
by UnshackleTheChains inyes folks.
over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.
most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.
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jambon1
I'm interested why slimboyfat can interpret the convention as 'not being too hard line' when they've produced blatant homophobic material and what will be arguably terrifying footage for children of a woman being turned into a pilar of salt for disobeying god.
This was the sort of material that would have my young daughter having to entertain nightmarish dilemmas about her unbelieving families.
In addition, I'm sure those young kids in the audience (or even adults) will be delighted to know that their natural state of being homosexual is yet again frowned upon/considered immoral by their entire social network. That'll really help their emotional advancement into adulthood no end.
Its sick in the mind and if this sort of thing is now passing for being reasonable material then it shows desensitised to their cruelty one can become if exposed to it enough*.
* excluding children whom it quite clearly profoundly affects in a negative sense.