He was taken off microphones for kissing a girl, truly nothing more than that. Wonkers!
...............and at the same time, the elders sons were secretly boozing, viewing porn & masturbating. They stayed on mics though.
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So for you...
by KW13 inso for you what made you leave?.
what helped you stay out?.
did you have support from friends or anyone (online included .
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Email from my mom.
by unique1 ini apologize if someone has already posted this.
my mom just sent me this email showing how the illustrations from daniel's time show the rock getting closer.
now, this would mean something if it just showed up that way, you know god's finger on the wall type thing.
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Did that work? Can you guys see them now?
Yes we can and I have to say it has made me think that I have made a mistake leaving the truth. I mean if this is deliberate and the GB have some inside information that we dont then maybe it is very close. Mind you, it never came when 6 000 000 people were gassed in the holocaust, when millions perished due to starvation or when millions of kids were being molested by their father so I guess big J cant really be relied on to step in at 'just the right time', unless its with spiritual food at the proper time of course. J
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Why shouldn't I be a JW?
by AirDuster inhi, i am brand new to these forums.
i have been reading some stuff for a while from here and other websites.
i feels totally crazy being a member now.
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Are you anxiously waiting for Jehovah to violently and painfully kill 99.99% (6.5 Billion minus 6 million Dubs) of the world's population because they "deserve" it; even the small children?
If not, then you are in the wrong group. Everything the Dubs do is geared towards this ocurring as soon as possible.
My sentiments exactly.
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Email from my mom.
by unique1 ini apologize if someone has already posted this.
my mom just sent me this email showing how the illustrations from daniel's time show the rock getting closer.
now, this would mean something if it just showed up that way, you know god's finger on the wall type thing.
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This has been posted before but its a good point. I heard this in my cong not long after the watch brochure came out. As you say a human slant on a human drawing. - pretty pathetic that they have to straw clutch so much.
Some in my old cong are getting the jitters about the new campaign and convention theme.
Each to his own, but in my opinion its a load of shyte.
J
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Franz COC - what is your favourite part?
by jambon1 inbecause i live with a jw who does`nt know about my apostate activity i dont feel that i can have a copy of ray franz book, although i would love to.
can some please paraphrase their favourite part?
maybe someday i will be able to read it all.
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Because I live with a JW who does`nt know about my apostate activity I dont feel that I can have a copy of Ray Franz book, although I would love to.
Can some please paraphrase their favourite part?
Maybe someday I will be able to read it all.
Thanks,
J
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Which annual JW event did you dislike the most?
by jambon1 ini actually never liked the memorial.
it was`nt a very spiritual occasion at all really.
i hated feeling guilty about not doing the scheduled bible reading.
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I actually never liked the memorial. It was`nt a very spiritual occasion at all really. I hated feeling guilty about not doing the scheduled bible reading. Maybe I just was`nt spiritual enough. I always hated when the brothers who had handed round the emblems would then sit at the front and be handed them again by the speaker! WHY?
Assemblies & conventions broke the cycle of field service etc but they were tiring with the kids.
Guilt always seemed to come as a by-product of all these events.
J
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My street shepherding call....
by jambon1 ini bumped into an elder from another cong today.
officially i`m depressed and not attending meetings.
really though, i`m just fading.
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I bumped into an elder from another cong today.
Officially I`m depressed and not attending meetings. Really though, I`m just fading. Have been for 2 months. I`ve not been at a meeting in all this time.
So in his mind I`m depressed, not coping with lifes anxieties etc etc. Right.
The guy immediately starts by saying that sometimes, despite all that may be going on we 'just have to get to the meetings'. He recited a personal experience which PROVED that you can and indeed should just 'get on with it'.
I told him that he didnt know my circumstances (only my local elders know about my doubts). Nevertheless he said that I`ve got my wife & kids to think about and that I am the head. At this point I just wanted to tell him straight.
Again I told him it was`nt just depression. - 'get to the meetings' was the answer.
Now is it just me? This guy is dealing with (in his mind), a depressed person, someone struggling with his responsibilities. So what does he do? Remind me of my responsibilities & tells me (several times) to get to the meetings.
Not really a 'shadow in an exhausted land', I suspect that this experience could be re-related the world over.
Sad for those who desire & indeed need that 'word at the right time'.
J
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how long did you hang on to the language?
by carla ini have noticed some who have recently left still hang on to 'unique' language of the society.
how long did it take you stop using the buzz words and things like brother, sister, jah, and many others?
and do you still recognize the word jehovah as a word for god?
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Before the time of the end I had became inactive using the spiritual language. I suppose the friends felt that I needed some encouragement to speak the healthful words again but I had waged war on the pure language of truth, polished my (un)spiritual armour so to speak. So as we can clearly see, from what is written here for our benefit, I dont use it anymore.
Jehovahs blessings to you all.
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HOW MANY THOUGHT THEY WOULD SURVIVE
by beezknees ini'm sure this will have been discussed before..but i am new here, so i was wondering how many of you when you where active jw's actually beleived you were going to survive armageddon.
i personally being brought up in the 'truth' used to lie in bed frightened of it coming or world events always thinking i was too bad a person to survive, and even as an adult i always felt i was never doing enough or good enough to be 'chosen' for survival when the end came u were always made to feel like you should be doing more as though you could earn your salvation.
i have talked to someone else who i know has left and they felt the same, i was wondering how many of you guys actually beleived you would make it through armageddon
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even as an adult i always felt i was never doing enough or good enough to be 'chosen' for survival when the end came u were always made to feel like you should be doing more as though you could earn your salvation. I have talked to someone else who i know has left and they felt the same...........
...........stay on here and you will hear from MANY who feel the same as you and you`re friend.
It is a common feeling to have experienced the 'do more, do more' attitude that permeates the org. It is soul-destroying. Miss a meeting (feel bad), go out on a Friday night, miss f/s Sat morning (feel bad), cant keep up with reading the reams of literature?? (FEEL BAD).
I was worn out with having 2 young kids and a heavy workload & detested meeting nights. It all just wore me out Im afraid.
So, the answer is no. I dont think many felt like they were 'approved for survival'.
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For those who aren't Disfellowshipped,do you still consider yourself a JW?
by JH in.
i was baptized jw, so yes i would say i'm still a jw, but i don't agree with all that they do.. so, i still consider myself a jw
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Its a hard one. Others (bros & world) probobly still think of me as a JW. I would rather they did`nt but its the easiest way. If it ever comes up in conversation with worldly people I just tell them I dont go anymore. If it gets deeper I tell them I had some issues/doubts.