i was looking up a couple of verses the other day in my nwt reference bible the one with larger print, footnotes, cross references, etc.
in my day i was quite a diligent student - the bible is filled with my notes and comments, and i'd already worn out another one earlier.
one of the things that i found surprising as i was reading my notes, was how often they were pointing out inconsistencies, contradictions and obvious lies in the biblical text.
When I read the sentances you refer to, I too was disillusioned by the amount of times this statement was made.
For me though, the terrible attrocities mentioned in the bible just saddened me and made me question everything. As someone else stated earlier on this thread, the law mentioened in the OT was just perverted.
I saw no evidence at all of a loving god in the OT - she bears/stoning/killing/Job/King Davids murder etc, etc.
Religion sucks. It produces evil people.
J
come on, be vain for a moment.
maybe you haven't posted your picture because you're trying to maintain some level of anonymity, .
maybe you have posted your picture... .
6ft Scottish man who likes to wear the kilt. Green eyes, moderately good looking. Loves fun and a good laugh. Short(ish) hair. Not fat, probobly viewed as skinny by some.
Is this some sort of fackin dateing forum or what!
J
........................at my last meeting, the elder was talking about 1975 and said "it never happened, it is appostates using a time when (some) brothers took the info in the wt wrong"...................i just blinked and finally woke up.. i had been on this site lurking for a couple of weeks, and realized thing werent right, but to have some creep say on the platform " it didnt happen"............when this ruined my and my siblings childhood, just made me snap.
on the way home, i told my hubby "that was the last meeting im going to"................boy was he pleased.. .
so if you didnt get df ......................what happened at your last meeting.?.
At my last meeting, I sat there very passive, wanting to be somewhere else. For once, finally, I knew it was over. I knew that as I put my suit on that morning, It was over. The enext day I announced to my family that it was over.
The 4 years before that is a very long story. But I will always remember that last meeting!
hey guys, it's me- cordy, again with my life story of being in the jws.
i've lived in new york city almost all of my life and have been associated with the jws way too long- since i was a little kid- 8 years old in 1987, plus my mom studied as early as 1983. my mom didn't get baptized until 1995 and i myself got baptized at the age of 17 iin 1996. i know we were probably on a list at some point as a "non-progressive" bible study since it took us so long to get baptized.
my mom and dad split in 1993 and that year was great because we were barely at meetings....then we got a shepherding call and my mom got sucked right back in.
Please mate - support you mum. She needs it right now.
At the same time, live your life and do what you want to do (even in secret, it is possible).
You really need to be a shinning example of a good person, despite what you may be viewed as by JW`s. Do what you think is right for your mum and do what you need to do for you.
It is a very hard situation indeed.
Please post here regulary for support. It is a blessing for you at this time in your life.
If you want to PM me then please do. I know what you are going through.
Best,
J
at the suggestion of jgnat, i'm gonna pour my heart out to give the whole story of my current situation.
i've also moved the thread topic to the friends category as i no longer consider this a private matter, so now everyone can help!!!
so i met lynda at work.
I'm not yet sure what is going to happen, it is way too early to tell. Right now she is leaning toward being reinstated. I think this is because she has lost so much and doesn't want to deal with it. There is so much pressure on her right now.
At one time after I left the org, I felt like going back because of all the trouble it caused in my & others lives. I never did but this is a natural process.
One peice of advice - please be a nice, kind and loving person towards all during this time. If you lose it for some reason then it will push her towards the org (maybe). The best way of dealing with things is to be understanding & caring towards ALL feelings (even if you dont agree with them).
Best mate,
J
this is the one regarding children who died because they didn't get a blood transfusion.
i need it for my speech.
also i need any pictures or thoughts on blood transfusions.
The more I look into this article and associated WT articles on vaccinations and transplants, the more it turns my stomach that I was ever associated with this this organisation.
After reading one article in Awake I felt physically sick.
I`m sorry but they are mind perverted, evil, murdering bastards.
no, i don't have this article yet, it will appear in the sep 1, 2006 wt.
it may even be a wt study article.. in the august 15 watchtower, the box "in our next issue" has three forthcoming articles, and one of them is "when a loved one leaves jehovah".
of interest, it's not when a loved one leaves the society, it's jehovah.. will keep you posted.
Thanks for posting this.
Delores meditated on 'the reasonableness of Jehovahs arrangements'.
It seems that the way JW`s see reasonableness is through WT tinted glasses. Everyone else in the world would not see things this way.
I am so glad I am out of this ludicrous religion and that my children will never be affected by the crazy JW mindset.
i'm not talking about the time you gave the nasty elder a bleeding nose
back when you were still in the org, have you ever seen a trouble-maker
i remember how once, a drunk
Another time in a different hall we had someone just stand up and start yelling at the conductor during the watchtower study.
Was that Bill Bowen from silent lambs? HAHA.
anyone here who was removed from volunteering on the rbc?.
or did you remove someone yourself?.
a recent km announcement said that everyone on the rbc list of volunteers had to be updated.
At one quick build 2 elders literally came to blows on the building site.
One is still an elder. It was very discouraging indeed to all involved.
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what do you think would encourage the jw's enormously right now?.
another war, a pandemic, a meteor striking the earth, bird flu in the us?
9/11 really got some going I think, but more and more people just see it as another thing which will blow over. Apathy is the JW`s worst enemy and I get the impression that it is spreading fast - (most pursuing a comfy life).
Good luck to them anyway, they will need it!
