Posts by jambon1

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11-5-17 Warwick Protest Photos

by thebrokenkite in

let the reader use discernment:.

i was disfellowshipped in june of last year.

while i've been awake for nearly a year, i still often feel groggy.

jambon1

The only video I could stand to look at showed a group of people that looked like a teenager on a hyped up, drunken night out that turned out to be shit - shouting lots of nonsense and over exaggerated ‘fun’ being had.

Guys making lots of noise and appearing overly passionate to make up for the lack of actual effective activism taking place. The ridiculous walk into the sprinklers is just stupid and I agree that it plays into the narrative you mentioned, that apostates are all crazy sons of bitches.

I’m not into this type of activism. I’m not into disruption or making loud noises. People will disagree but I find it counter productive & easily dismissed by witnesses.

If Watchtower are to be forced to wake up to their abuses and end them, it’ll not be because of this type of activism. It’ll be by thoughtful and considered dialogue with the authorities, current witnesses and Watchtower itself.

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“There’s nothing out there in the world for you...”

by Jules Saturn in

how would you guys react if or when you were told this phrase by a jw while having a conversation?

another phrase is “this world...” or “this system, like gum will chew you up and when it’s done with you, spit you right back out.”.

one i’ve been personally told was from a convert that had told me “whenever i speak to young ones that want to know if the grass is greener on the other side, i tell them i was a part of it.

jambon1

Have had better experiences and more meaningful relationships than I ever had as a JW.

Over 10 years out.

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Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped

by UnshackleTheChains in

well.....they showed that shunning video again.

you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.

everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.

jambon1

It's quite a fact that if you treat your kids like that then you're not worth shit as a person, never mind a parent.

Im glad they're ramping up this fucking shit in recent times because it'll turn the heads of any normal person.

Vile.

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

jambon1

I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way.....

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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention

by UnshackleTheChains in

yes folks.

over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.

jambon1

Sorry if it's off topic but here's what some feel about the 'non hard line' convention this year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6qks7u/just_saw_the_wife_of_lot_transformation_scene_in/?st=J5S3EARJ&sh=eb9a887b

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Phone call with a disfellowshipped relative

by Jules Saturn in

so i call my grandfather who has been inactive for several decades and he's at vacation in puerto rico.

the conversation is normal, we talk about how he's doing down there and how i am doing.

then he tells me that my cousin who i haven't seen in 5 years, is with him and asks if i would like to speak to him; i said yes.

jambon1

Great to hear of people breaking up bad ideas. Can't imagine how hard it is to be ignored. So cruel. Well done you.

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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention

by UnshackleTheChains in

yes folks.

over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.

jambon1

Through the eyes of a child I'm pretty sure it's at least frightening and it engenders the aspect of fear/death that witnesses like to promote. Not good.

I disagree with your assessment on witnesses homophobia. They'll never publicly accept the lifestyle in any way. Even if what you suggest happens, it still does little for those who will forever be assured that they cannot 'cone out' and be accepted by their family.

You can dress these things up all you like. The fact is that witnesses are scaremongering homophobes and I don't accept that the material mentioned above is not 'hard line'.

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My jaw dropping OMG moment at the end of the convention

by UnshackleTheChains in

yes folks.

over the past few days i can honestly say the convention was relatively quite good.

most of the talks, videos, symposiums were in line with scripture if you have faith in the bible.

jambon1

I'm interested why slimboyfat can interpret the convention as 'not being too hard line' when they've produced blatant homophobic material and what will be arguably terrifying footage for children of a woman being turned into a pilar of salt for disobeying god.

This was the sort of material that would have my young daughter having to entertain nightmarish dilemmas about her unbelieving families.

In addition, I'm sure those young kids in the audience (or even adults) will be delighted to know that their natural state of being homosexual is yet again frowned upon/considered immoral by their entire social network. That'll really help their emotional advancement into adulthood no end.

Its sick in the mind and if this sort of thing is now passing for being reasonable material then it shows desensitised to their cruelty one can become if exposed to it enough*.

* excluding children whom it quite clearly profoundly affects in a negative sense.

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I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

by UnshackleTheChains in

well i have to give credit where credit is due.

it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

jambon1

I don't really care for their belated, sniffeling 'improvements'. None of these have came off their own back and frankly, after the ARC, if they cared at all about ssfeguarding children then they'd have inplimented the suggested changes immediately. But they haven't and never will. Mainly because they're proud and rigidly stuck in their ridiculous ideology.

If things improve and less children are harmed then fair enough but I can't see it. They'd have to get rid of the two witness rule. And they won't.

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My Reverse-Shunning Letter To My Mother

by pale.emperor in

i mailed the below letter to my mother a few weeks ago.

i did share it on the ex-jw facebook group but thought i'd post it here.. basically, she's shunned me since day 1, has little or nothing to do with my 3yo daughter and told my sister "i hope <my daughter> becomes a jw when she's older so i can welcome her into the family".

well, that was the last straw for me..

jambon1

I'm quite emotional over stuff like this anyway but I can feel a lot of pain in that letter. I cant endorse reverse shunning enough as I feel that it's effective, cathartic but most of all the right moral thing to do.

Your letter was overall lovely. An appeal. A plea. But a definate line drawn in the sand of what you expect in human relationships. Well done.