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Posts by Arthur
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7Children of God
by Silvia Plath inyou guys should check this out.
http://www.movingon.org/.
if you thought you had it bad, here is a cult, that said out in the open at one point that sex should be normalized for children in such a way, that one could participate children in sex and there was nothing wrong with it!
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Arthur
One time during the Watchtower study, the conductor's wife made a comment about the lack of modesty in the way young girls dress today.
Not thinking about how this would sound out loud, she said: "today, girls wear clothing that shows all of their nooks and crannies..." The whole audience roared. She became very embarrased and tried to elaborate when her husband cut her off and said "okay, we all get the picture".
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Noah's rectangular Ark
by vomit insomething from when i was younger; i always was forced to believe that noahs ark was rectangular, since it was in the bible stories and other publications that way.
but in any other religious books the ark always had at least a bit of a curved stern and a v or u shaped hull.
a v or u shaped hull with ribs is far stronger, timber efficient, hydrodynamic and can take a few hits.
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Arthur
I would like to see someone publish a children's book showing Noah driving a speed boat with a couple of camels wearing bikinis riding with him.
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Glad Stealth453 is here? Do you agree, lose the diaper? Vote. YES or NO.
by Wasanelder Once inok, this is for fun.
how many are glad stealth is still here?
i vote yes.. how many vote lose the diaper?
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Arthur
Yes, I'm glad he's here.
As far as the diaper is concerned, I'm not sure. I'm just wondering who the person is who changes it for him.
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What is all this about Smurfs?
by Stealth453 in.
i have been out a long time, and i have recently noticed a lot of you making mention of smurfs.. obviously, i have missed something.
has the watchliar sociopath society "demonized" smurfs somewhere along the line.. reminds me of the old fear of paintings of clowns, with big eyes, that made the rounds back in the late 60's, early 70's.
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Arthur
I remember the Smurf hysteria in the early 80s. It cracks me up how many urban legends circulated among JWs. I too remember the one about the Smurf doll comming to life inside the Kingdom Hall. I was about 8 years old when I heard that, and it scared the heck out of me.
Here's something else. Did any of you hear what the word Smurf supposedly stood for? One of the urban legends was that the cartoon creator of the Smurfs was in the ocult, and that if you spell Smurf backwards, it reads: frum-s (meaning from Satan) Again; I was about 8 years old when I heard this. I was so scared that I threw away my smurf watch.
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Has being a Jehova's witness totally shattered your faith?
by Silvia Plath injust because the watchtower society is wrong doesn't mean that there is no god, nor does it mean there is a god.
it would interesting to now how former members have adjusted thier cosmology, or whether they are now atheists and why.
i personally see religion as a more personal matter, rather than belonging to an organization.
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Arthur
A year ago, just those simple realizations would have freaked me out. Now, I'm sick of people trying to fit God in a box and saying that God wants you to do this or that..... I still believe that God exists, I think, but if he does, I'm sure he's large enough to encompass all types of worship. If he had one certian way he wanted to be worshipped, he would have made it obvious.
I like what GoingGoingGone wrote. I totally relate. Even while I was a Witness, I seriously questioned much of the Old Testament and found much of it to be rather silly (Garden of Eden, Samson, global flood, talking donkees, etc.) I just couldn't understand how the omnipotent power of the universe would have so many weak human characteristics as jealousy, insecurity, wrath, and obsession with trivial rituals and sacrafices. I still believe in God and I pray. But, I have a lot of cynicism when it comes to religion in general.
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Have you felt this way?
by purplesofa in.
for a year now i have been dealing with some overwhelming problems..........and while doing that neglected other things and now they have come to a head as a problem.. i was driving and thinking............if i only had gone to the meetings this past year and a half.............and maybe if i start going again......things will get better........ it soon went away...........but did that nag at you in the back of your mind.......and if it did........how long did it last?.
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I get so tired of thinking about it all ........trying to figure out what is real and what is not.........its not just learning about what I learned from the Witnesses.........I was raised Catholic.
I just have such a bitter taste in my mouth about religion .......any of them.
A lot of us understand how you feel. Many of us have developed a strong disliking for most of religion. I think that Free2beme made a good point. Our many years of conditioning does have a long after-effect on us. This stuff doesn't go way overnight. I too have those feelings you talked about from time to time. I think that it just takes time and requires some loving support from others.
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Story: How the "Preaching Work" Ended
by metatron inwhen february of 2008 came around, the watchtower society was facing two dilemmas.. first, courts in the us were creeping closer to establishing a widespread precedent that church volunteers could trigger liability suits for their.
respective religions, just as surely as if they were employees.
a 17 million dollar judgement against a catholic diocese in the midwest set the.
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Arthur
A 17 million dollar judgement against a Catholic diocese in the midwest set the pace in 2005 - and sent shock waves thru the Society's legal dept. It was just a matter of time before a car accident occurred involving some elder or publisher and caused the Watchtower to be listed as a 'deep pocket' defendant. Eventually, publishers and elders in particular would be seen as agents of local circuits, if not the Society itself
This reminds me of the lawsuit in New York regarding the Bethelite that killed a motorist on his way to a congregation meeting. I haven't heard anything recently regarding the suit or it's status. It also brings up the the well-known Cano case in New York. I am wondering how many lawsuits might be filed by people in Illinois and New York over Cano's conduct while in field service.
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Are you happier out of the org?
by dobbie inhi everyone i was just wondering if those of you that have left the org for whatever reason, have found your'e much happier than when you were in it?probably a daft question but i tried to talk to a friend about how i was feeling about a few things and why i don't go to meetings and she said would i really be any happier out than in?it just got me thinking about why i joined in the first place, because i was lonely and down, although i still am several years later it seems!have you found life better on the outside?did you feel a sense of freedom or was it really hard to adjust?when i try to explain what i find hard in the religion they can always say something back that then makes me think i was wrong in the first place and it is the truth after all - aagh!
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Arthur
I think it is essential to have a healthy replacement social circle when you make the decision to leave the WTS though. It makes for a smooth transition into freedom. Otherwise it can get very lonely and find yourself gravitating back into that mess. Even a couple of friends that understand what you are going through should suffice.
Unbrainwashed made a really good point. It is really important to have a support system in place. Leaving the org is definitely a rough transition. Personally, I am much healthier emotionally since fading away. Having some close, supportive friends definitely makes the process easier.
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Arthur
MegaDude,
Where is that Obsticle Course at? Is that in the U.S.?