Posts by Arthur

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What do you think the JWs will be doing on the 4th of July?

by Blindbutnowisee in

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tomorrow i plan on sleeping in late and then go to a cookout.

during a day where it seems that most people will be in the yards cooking on the grill, i wonder if more jws will go out in service; and if offered a hotdog will they accept it?.

Arthur

yah that'd be great , go out in field service where every drunk in the US is getting blasted. That'd make some great personal experience stuff on thursday night.

Now I know what was missing from my field service bag - a flask. I’m convinced that had I been smart enough to take a few (or several) swigs of Bacardi 151 before each morning of door-to-door work, I could have been much more effective. With a good buzz, the 144,000 doctrine would have made perfect sense, and Beth Sarim wouldn’t have bothered me a bit.

Householder: "I’m not interested".

Arthur: "Yeah, well, neither am I."

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Isn't Jehovah a wonderful God?

by nvrgnbk in

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friends

when i look around at all the people in the world, i'm comforted to know that jehovah will soon destroy them.. i'm talking about people that don't attend our encouraging christian meetings.

yes, people that don't zealously participate in the preaching of the good news.

'what good news?

Arthur

I remember that Nathan Natas made a really great statement in a previous thread one time. He said that Jehovah was merely a sock puppet for the Watchtower Society - meaning that Jehovah says whatever the organization says He says.

The Watchtower version of God is no better than the God that David Koresh or Jim Jones worshipped - a God who has granted exclusive communication with an elite group of people, whereby everyone outside their group shall be smitten.

Delusional people believe that God speaks to them through their television set, their potted plants, or through their cat. Equally delusional people believe that God speaks to people via printing presses in Brooklyn.

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Kirk Cameron should have stuck to mediocre sitcoms

by under_believer in

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he's currently tamed up with this guy called ray comfort and together they run a "ministry" where they make banal observations and say that it proves god exists.

check this one out:.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xkhurrkoht8.. .

Arthur

Yeah, I certainly don't recall Kirk Cameron being nominated for any awards in his role in the "Left Behind" series of movies. I think that a role in Colgate commercials would have drawn a bigger applause.

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Where do you go for your spiritual needs?

by Blindbutnowisee in

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friends

i never was baptize as a jw.

i use to study with them for years, i even went as for as becoming a unbaptize publisher.

i gave up being a publisher because i did not feel genuine in my efforts to preach.

Arthur

Monty Python DVDs.

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Because they are FAITHFUL!!! Because they are DISCREET!!!

by OnTheWayOut in

a coworker and friend whose family are jw went to the district convention with his jw wife and kids.. he said that about the only thing he got out of friday's session was this hilarious statement in the title.. here's the story-.

the speaker says, .

"why should we trust the faithful and discreet slave?.

Arthur

It sure seems as though Jesus and his slave-masters on earth have gotten their wires crossed over the years. How could Jesus allow his own organization on earth to make complete asses of themselves over and over again with false teachings and predictions? How could he stand back and allow his selected "slave class" to predict the end of this system of things in 1918, 1925, and 1941; bringing major discredit to his organization, to His father, and to the Holy Bible itself?

However, all of this can be dismissed with a wave of the hand. For any of us to make such observations reveals a "fault-finding attitude" of which was characteristic of "Korah who murmured against Moses". Watchtower thought-stopping cliches are great aren't they?

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Song Lyrics That Remind You Of The Watchtower

by Arthur in

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friends

i was listening to a song today by rush.

i had heard the song a few times before, but today i really listened closely to the lyrics.

i read the lyrics off of the cd jacket and the words remind me so much of how i felt in the watchtower organization - never being allowed to ask serious questions or raise any kinds of objections to organizational practices.

Arthur

I was listening to a song today by Rush. It is the song "Show Don't Tell; off of the "Presto" album. I had heard the song a few times before, but today I really listened closely to the lyrics. I read the lyrics off of the CD jacket and the words remind me so much of how I felt in the Watchtower organization - never being allowed to ask serious questions or raise any kinds of objections to organizational practices. I thought I'd share them with you here. Do any of you have any songs that remind you of your time as a JW? Here is mine:

"SHOW DON'T TELL" by Rush ( album: Presto / 1989)

how many times do you hear it?
it goes on all day long
everyone knows everything
no one's ever wrong

until later

who can you believe?
it's hard to play it safe
but apart from a few good friends
we don't take anything on faith

until later

Show Don't Tell
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
You've figured out the score
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
I've heard it all before
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
I don't care what you say
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
You can twist perceptions
reality won't budge
you can raise objections
I will be the judge

and the jury

I'll give it due reflection
watching from the fence
give the jury direction
based on the evidence

I, the jury

SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
Hey - order in the court
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
Let's try to keep it short
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
Enough of your demands
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
Witness take the stand
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
Hey - order in the court
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
Let's try to keep it short
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME
I don't care what you say
SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME

Let's see exhibit A

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Did you like Pirates 3 : At Worlds End (Spoilers possible)

by free2beme in

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friends

i went and saw this movie sunday and i admit, i was not expecting much.

i liked the first one, a ton.

i thought the second one was too long and boring, with all sorts of new information that was so off the plot of the original, that you felt like it sort of ruined the original.

Arthur

It was very difficult for me to follow. It seemed like they tried to cram too much into the three hours. I soon lost interest, and thought that it was too long. Two and a half hours of Johnny Depp wearing eye shadow and walking around like a girl is more than enough for me.

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Why the Watchtower is NOT Christian

by smellsgood in

watchtower, feb. 15, 1983, p. 12. .

" john 6:40 watchtower style .

the watchtower; "12/1/1981, p. 27. .

Arthur

I have been saying for a long time that the Watchtower organization is basically a hybrid religion of first-century Judaism, and multi-level marketing - a Pharisaical AMWAY; if you will.

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Thousand and One things similar to things JW do

by Marcel in

since i started "thinking" i see thousand and one things in life that fits to jws behaviour and which i never had seen before.

do you know the british movie "kick it like beckham"?

theres a indian girl, who plays soccer in a club.

Arthur

Herbert Armstrong was a false prophet.

Joseph Rutheford just made an honest mistake.

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Thousand and One things similar to things JW do

by Marcel in

since i started "thinking" i see thousand and one things in life that fits to jws behaviour and which i never had seen before.

do you know the british movie "kick it like beckham"?

theres a indian girl, who plays soccer in a club.

Arthur

"It's terrible that the Catholic church has files on pedophiles, they need to turn them over to the authorities."

"The Society needs to keep files on pedophiles; to turn them over to the authorities would be compromising."