i thought the movie was well presented.
the drama of the two men trapped was engaging.
the only problem is that it seemed like they were the center of the whole event.
I'm one of the people that believes they were taken down by the government to rally support and to enact the Patriot Act. There is just too much evidence that doesn't fit with the official explanation of what supposedly happened on 9/11.
zeroday, I don't think he's serious. I think he was just making a joke.
i thought the movie was well presented.
the drama of the two men trapped was engaging.
the only problem is that it seemed like they were the center of the whole event.
I loved the movie. I thought that it was really moving.
Only because at the end there was a statement that the guy who found them went back into the marines and did two tours of Iraq as if that were the way to get revenge for 9/11. A little disengenuous to me.
Personally, I don't think that Oliver Stone threw that information in to try to get recruitment numbers up in the Marines. I think it was just given as matter-of-fact information. It's possible that that particular Marine felt that he was avenging 9/11 by his tours; but I don't think that Oliver Stone had an agenda in relaying that information.
i remember when i was a kid it wasn't unusual for someone to ask a question of the conductor during the bookstudy.
not that often but occasionally.
in my most recent years as a dub i can't recall anyone ever asking any questions.
The "Book Study" is basically a pre-scripted indoctrination session which is intended to look like a Bible study. There is no such thing as a group Bible study in the JW universe. It is Watchtower Doctrinal studies given the name "Bible studies". You already know what the answer is supposed to be before the question is even asked. It's sort of like when you see a TIDE commercial that has those stain removing tests with their leading competitors. Guess which detergent always wins the test?
dear all,.
why can we not get on with our lives and let go of what we have all been through?
why are we all still so angry and frustrated?
It's wonderful to post here, but do any of us ever recover?
Absolutely. I have corresponded with a few. I look forward to the day when I will have "recovered". I think that the "blowing off some steam" is a perfectly normal part of the recovery process. Remember: we come from an environment where nobody is allowed to express any kind of independent thought. There is absolutely no disagreement or discussion allowed. It's very similar to the Communist Party under Chairman Mao. Anyone who didn't go along with the party line was punished or purged.
It is only natural for people like us who come from a totalitarian cult-like environment to blow off steam for a while. This is something that we were never allowed to do for many years. It has felt very good for me to finally be able to let out my true feelings and to be able to express them without fear. I certainly don't intend to stay angry forever. Just long enough to let it out. This anger had been bottled up for many years.
One cannot heal from deep-rooted anger until they address it, and then express it. When they have expressed it and dealt with it, then they are in a position to help others through the difficult process.
just a short introduction.
by the time i left i had the privilege of being an elder, had given public talks, memorial talks, wedding talks and convention talks up to circuit assembly level.
dear third witness
BroSun1, Welcome to the board. It's nice to have you.
I don't think that thirdwitness will spend any significant amount of time talking about this issue. It seems as though he is mainly interested in debating Watchtower chronology. AlanF, who has debated him extensively believes that he is a Bethel operative who's main objective is to tout the WTS's teachings regarding the 607 b.c.e date. Here is a link to AlanF's statements:
i am doing fine and i will do what the doctor says take chemo the witnesses came by my home today and i don't know how they got my address they don't really know about me or my lifestyle or any of my health problems.
when i wanted some help in the past there were no real friends just go to meetings and kiss up to the click in the congregation.
katiekitten you're great.
Hi Gary,
I'm sorry to hear about what you're going through. Just one thought. Have you thought about kindly telling the local Witnesses that you do not want any more visits? Maybe that would relieve some of the pressure.
Warmest Regards,
Arthur
well, another jw is now an ex-jw.
not going back.
that makes 8 since june or so of 2005, not counting the df's that won't be going back.. woo-hoo!
That makes 8 since June or so of 2005, not counting the DF's that won't be going back.
Not sure what you're talking about. Are you refering to the congregation that you once attended?
her posts for a very long time were overflowing with an obvious scholarship.
i have avidly read her posts and have tucked away as much as my much smaller brain could be forced to take in.
i'm sure others have openly expressed their admiration and appreciation for her, but i would like to do so here.
proplog2,
Please, just let this issue go.
And please stop acting like a:
does anyone know the current thought on what happened before the flood?
i remember being taught that it never rained before the flood but now they are telling me that was never taught.
i thought i remembered a quote somewhere saying something to the effect of "can you imagine how the outsiders must have felt feeling those first drops of rain?
I'd have hated to have driven 500 miles to hear that.
Next thing they're gonna say is there was no firmament. Outrageous I say!
LOL Yes, and perhaps they are going to say something really unnerving like there were animals before Adam and Eve that really didn't eat straw and grass!
hi, i have a problem with drinking.
maybe it is more with depression.
has anyone out there been able to conquer this without the whole institution, 6 week program?
Kaytam,
I just sent you a PM.
