He is only my son by marriage and is a mommas boy, so if I just attempt to put my foot down, he will most likely gravitate towards her. He is thinking about how messed up the borg is...and he really does not have any respect for the borg.
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My wife wants the stepson to 'study'....any ideas??
by insearchoftruth inas if i did not have enough stress in my life right now.....we have a son who has finally come clean on some of the things he has done in the past, and these things were pretty bad.
my wife (who many of you probably feel you know from earlier posts) has been acting very interested in the jws and now with the son's admittance of his transgressions, she has decided that it is time for him to 'meet his maker', so she has told him that the two of them will be studying the 'bible' together.
she has talked to the sister she has studied with about this and she is more than willing to help by providing literature to guide the studies, i am guessing the 'young people ask' books.
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My wife wants the stepson to 'study'....any ideas??
by insearchoftruth inas if i did not have enough stress in my life right now.....we have a son who has finally come clean on some of the things he has done in the past, and these things were pretty bad.
my wife (who many of you probably feel you know from earlier posts) has been acting very interested in the jws and now with the son's admittance of his transgressions, she has decided that it is time for him to 'meet his maker', so she has told him that the two of them will be studying the 'bible' together.
she has talked to the sister she has studied with about this and she is more than willing to help by providing literature to guide the studies, i am guessing the 'young people ask' books.
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Mary, thanks for the SOUND ADVICE.....I took a bit of time last evening and showed him the things he would not be allowed to do if he became a JW, I told him about needing a chaperone for a date, no karate, minimized after school activity, showed him the September public edition of the WT where education is compared to cigarettes, alcohol and drugs....his mom did say that he will study with her unless he can provide a compelling reason not to, so I am going to take him to the Baptist youth activities (I am not a Baptist myself, but they have a HUGE youth activity) and they do Bible studies where they actually use the Bible, not a WTS book and then he will be able to tell her that he is getting his information there. I also agree that he should just tell her that he is not into religion now, he did tell her that he does not believe in God, and she said that she will show him there is a God in her later studies with him. When he and I talked after she went to the meeting, I told him that I also believe in a supreme being, but I feel that a belief structure is a personal choice, so is deciding to not believe in a God. He is a bit like me in that he thinks pretty scientifically and really does a pretty good job of reasoning things out..... With respect to the study, it is the Young People Ask book, and I am pretty sure that the sister will provide her with volume II as well. He did notice all the talk about masturbation in the book when he was reading it with her he was rolling his eyes at some of what was said as well. I let him know that listening to what was being read was probably more painful for me than it was for him. One of the reasons I want to go with the flow for a while is if my wife complains to the sister that he and I are not taking it seriously, I am sure that the sister will find some young brother to be willing to come over for brainwashing sessions, which I am already to put a stop to........I would like to find a good non WTS book on ethical behaviour and suggest using that as well, or a book that provides sections of scripture to read, then discuss the scripture, not the piece/parts that are referred to out of context by the WTS in their publications. OK, back to the top.....knowing nothing about the strategy of the JW, what is the likely response I will be getting from my wife on the attempt to bring him to the Baptist church for the youth ministry program after she has her 'bible - gag' study with the sister on Friday (while I happen to still be at work......I must be tagged as bad news).
I want to be able to prepare for this, one of her friends is going to talk with her and pretty much give her the same guidance, find a group of good kids to have fun with.....something that is not available at a KH..... -
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My wife wants the stepson to 'study'....any ideas??
by insearchoftruth inas if i did not have enough stress in my life right now.....we have a son who has finally come clean on some of the things he has done in the past, and these things were pretty bad.
my wife (who many of you probably feel you know from earlier posts) has been acting very interested in the jws and now with the son's admittance of his transgressions, she has decided that it is time for him to 'meet his maker', so she has told him that the two of them will be studying the 'bible' together.
she has talked to the sister she has studied with about this and she is more than willing to help by providing literature to guide the studies, i am guessing the 'young people ask' books.
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I don't think he will go along, at all, but I do not agree with her trying to drive anything down his throat.....we are given free will as a gift, and we must be allowed to use our free will. Even in the JW literature they talk about people going astray....
My wife was forced to go to meetings, read the stuff, study etc....she overtly rejected it for quite some time....I think the appeals of a biological sister, the fear of being lonely and the timing of the people coming around the neighborhood all added up to this recent surge in interest for her....and now with the son doing some pretty bad things, she is thinking that the only way he can be set straight is to 'follow Jehovah'.....gets me ill.
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My wife wants the stepson to 'study'....any ideas??
by insearchoftruth inas if i did not have enough stress in my life right now.....we have a son who has finally come clean on some of the things he has done in the past, and these things were pretty bad.
my wife (who many of you probably feel you know from earlier posts) has been acting very interested in the jws and now with the son's admittance of his transgressions, she has decided that it is time for him to 'meet his maker', so she has told him that the two of them will be studying the 'bible' together.
she has talked to the sister she has studied with about this and she is more than willing to help by providing literature to guide the studies, i am guessing the 'young people ask' books.
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Mom is just a study right now, she has been associated with the JWs for most of her life through her parents, but has never been fully brought in, this is the third flirtation she has had with them since we have been married......it is tearing me up!
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Is it true that 95% of JWs still believe the door was closed in 1935?
by 1914BS ini get that kind of feedback when i talk to dubs that i know .
how about your experiences.
do the jws you talk to really keep up with the tidal wave of wt doctrine changes?
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I asked the PO to show me this in the Bible, he has said that is ok, he is busy this week with the visiting CO....and by the way, what does that mean, what special goes on at the KH during this visit?
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Is it true that 95% of JWs still believe the door was closed in 1935?
by 1914BS ini get that kind of feedback when i talk to dubs that i know .
how about your experiences.
do the jws you talk to really keep up with the tidal wave of wt doctrine changes?
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I think they are hoping to just let it sort of 'meld' into the doctrines, no desire to lift it up because that may cause folks to think about it.
I did ask the PO who is married to my wife's study sister about this (the generation change and the calling of the anointed) and he handed me a few WT articles. I asked him to show me these changes in the Bible, he skated around this.....a lot!!!
One lesson I learned however from this conversation was to step back, I have shown I know too much and I am labeled as a 'spiritual opposer', have not been told that directly from my wife, but overhead a phone conversation as to the same.
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My wife wants the stepson to 'study'....any ideas??
by insearchoftruth inas if i did not have enough stress in my life right now.....we have a son who has finally come clean on some of the things he has done in the past, and these things were pretty bad.
my wife (who many of you probably feel you know from earlier posts) has been acting very interested in the jws and now with the son's admittance of his transgressions, she has decided that it is time for him to 'meet his maker', so she has told him that the two of them will be studying the 'bible' together.
she has talked to the sister she has studied with about this and she is more than willing to help by providing literature to guide the studies, i am guessing the 'young people ask' books.
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Not quite so simple, when mom gets irritated or on the JW bandwagon, she acts quite irrational.....I told him last night to play the game for a while and he and I will work on things.....I really hope not to get any pushback from her on the youth activity at the local church, but am pretty sure it will come........
I am not at all pleased or comfortable with what is going on, but if she forces him on anything now, he will either rebel and be a real pain in the ....or never ever want to explore religion or faith again.
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My wife wants the stepson to 'study'....any ideas??
by insearchoftruth inas if i did not have enough stress in my life right now.....we have a son who has finally come clean on some of the things he has done in the past, and these things were pretty bad.
my wife (who many of you probably feel you know from earlier posts) has been acting very interested in the jws and now with the son's admittance of his transgressions, she has decided that it is time for him to 'meet his maker', so she has told him that the two of them will be studying the 'bible' together.
she has talked to the sister she has studied with about this and she is more than willing to help by providing literature to guide the studies, i am guessing the 'young people ask' books.
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My wife wants the stepson to 'study'....any ideas??
by insearchoftruth inas if i did not have enough stress in my life right now.....we have a son who has finally come clean on some of the things he has done in the past, and these things were pretty bad.
my wife (who many of you probably feel you know from earlier posts) has been acting very interested in the jws and now with the son's admittance of his transgressions, she has decided that it is time for him to 'meet his maker', so she has told him that the two of them will be studying the 'bible' together.
she has talked to the sister she has studied with about this and she is more than willing to help by providing literature to guide the studies, i am guessing the 'young people ask' books.
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Well maybe a few things on the positive side here, she did have him do some reading from the 'Young People Ask', the first one and then she went off to the book study, which was actually a CO visit...
After she left he and I had a pretty long talk, actually quite productive, where he told me about how he at the present does not believe there is a God and after he has seen how his uncle has been allowed to do almost nothing due to the JWs, but he does behind his parents back, there is no way he would consider becoming a JW and he sure hopes his mom never becomes one because of how 'wierd' they are (and he only knows a little bit of it).
She wants to read a chapter of this book with him each Monday evening, but I am also going to take him to a local Baptist church on Wednesday evenings where they have a really good youth program and expose him to a group of good kids (well at least I hope they are good kids), I am going to stop by the church some day in the next week and talk to the youth director who is also a pastor and let him know about the complete situation. I am hoping that he enjoys the fellowship of these kids and my wife gets to see what true love and care can do for someone.
Another interesting concession is one of the things he had done is steal from a neighbor who is pretty active in her own church. I floated the idea of seeing if my neighbors church has any social ministry programs that we could get our son involved in, and I was amazed....she liked the idea.
I know that once she talks to the sister, there will be roadblocks set up to these ideas, but I have already got him to say he will give the Wednesday night thing a try, and I am going to talk with the neighbor this evening, then if she changes her mind on it, she can tell the neighbor why. -
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1999 Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy--PDF--by request!
by Atlantis in1999 pay attention to daniel's prophecy--pdf--by request!
request from researcher: do you have the "daniel" book in pdf?
****************************************** my comments: sure, here you go!
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Thanks Atlantis!!