i had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.
We are not an island all of God's people including the appostles needed correction
But show me an instance where the apostles made a correction, then had to revert back to the original interpretation......I expect more from God's present spokespeople......yes, understanding is progressive, but going backwards is not a progression....
there are a few here that say we are not being fair and that we wrongfully bash the witnesses.. simply prove that the religion is not correct by any standard..
Read DNC's story under same topic, his story is written in 5 parts.
Is there a link to this, can not seem to find via search...
there are a few here that say we are not being fair and that we wrongfully bash the witnesses.. simply prove that the religion is not correct by any standard..
The Bible never changes......even 'progressive light' can not explain flip flops such as:
If the WTS were the truth and Jehovah's mouthpiece, why would the 'spirit directed organization' go from things that are truth and in accordance with the non-changing word of God, to practices against the non-changing word of God and then show the 'spirit directed organization' made a mistake by going back to a previous position.......
well had a really good weekend away from home, but i guess i knew that the respite from the wts would end.
tuesdays are the day my wife has her personal bible study with the sister and she has also had the husband come over on tuesday afternoons so the son can have the pleasure of a bible study (which he loathes, he is a high school junior and has no interest in this stuff).
i get home from work late, after a fairly long day and the guy is still there.
'spiritual endangerment' or 'absolute endangerment' of your wifes spiritual welfare is another way they might put it to your wife.
I am pretty sure I have been labeled this by a previous study conductor as well..........
well had a really good weekend away from home, but i guess i knew that the respite from the wts would end.
tuesdays are the day my wife has her personal bible study with the sister and she has also had the husband come over on tuesday afternoons so the son can have the pleasure of a bible study (which he loathes, he is a high school junior and has no interest in this stuff).
i get home from work late, after a fairly long day and the guy is still there.
They have already succeeded in getting her to label a lot of her former friends as 'unwholesome association'.......
Since they now know that you are well informed about the religion, they will almost certainly try telling your wife that Satan doesn't want her to 'learn the truth' and that quite often when people start studying with Jehovah's Witnesses, they receive "family opposition".
Yep, and this is quite a concern of mine.......not sure how to really handle this. I do not speak bad about the JWs to her, I do not try to keep her from meetings and the like and I just ask her questions.
This is the 'damage' I was referring to in my title.
well had a really good weekend away from home, but i guess i knew that the respite from the wts would end.
tuesdays are the day my wife has her personal bible study with the sister and she has also had the husband come over on tuesday afternoons so the son can have the pleasure of a bible study (which he loathes, he is a high school junior and has no interest in this stuff).
i get home from work late, after a fairly long day and the guy is still there.
My question is: what did your wife think of all the questions you asked him and the fact that he essentially, had nothing to support his doctrines?
I am really not sure Mary, she was not present for the complete discussion, she drifted outside with the dog for a while and she has not commented to me at all about it, but I do believe that she is at least thinking a bit, which is a change.....and also, thanks so very much Mary, your project provided me a lot of the background information I needed to be able to have this discussion, in a fairly calm manner.......
When he comes back, I still want him to show me the biblical allowance of fractions, explain to me how the 'sole channel of God' could have flip flopped on organ transplants and explain to me 1918/1919......
well had a really good weekend away from home, but i guess i knew that the respite from the wts would end.
tuesdays are the day my wife has her personal bible study with the sister and she has also had the husband come over on tuesday afternoons so the son can have the pleasure of a bible study (which he loathes, he is a high school junior and has no interest in this stuff).
i get home from work late, after a fairly long day and the guy is still there.
sort of suprised as well that your speaking as you did didn't trigger the 'aposta-radar'.
I am guessing it did trigger actually, but he did not have an idea how to react, and he had offered through his wife to my wife to answer questions I had, using only the bible.......I found as long as I kept him off of comfort areas, he had no ability to critically think.....
I still think they will provide my wife a very strong caution, but not sure how it will be phrased. She will go to the book study/ministry school thing tonight, I am sort of interested to see what she is like tomorrow.
I really did not even want to talk to him the other night, but he kept opening himself up...........
i had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.
This is from a quick search of the internet... note the winged sun.. this is the symbol of RA. I used to have this book. Maybe someone else can post a clearer pic. Really have to leave for work now.
I had found the small file with the cover picture, but when I attempted to enlarge it and print....unclear!
i hope it gives you hell, i hope it gives you hell.
i hope it gives you hell, i hope it gives you hell.
i hope it gives you hell, i hope it gives you hell.
Love the idea Tuesday.......I think this would get the attention of my stepson who is being forced to study as well......
i had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.
The most current publication of the time of thier being "chosen" was the Finished Mystery. On the front cover of that book is the symbol of the Sun God, Ra.
Is there a good scan of this cover available......along with the page with the copyright.....good point!
I mentioned finished mystery to him because I was raised Lutheran and wanted to read what was said about Martin Luther.....
