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  Do we need to experience the bad to know the good??

  by lowden in

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  inspired by a few posts from the 'suffering' thread, i pose the above question.. is it really necessary to experience or even know of evil deeds in order to appreciate good, benevolence, peace.. certain peoples and indigenous tribes have lived in peace and probably still do with little, if any, disturbance and malevolence within their communities.

  they don't need evil to appreciate good, surely.. one current headline story over here in britain is of a 7yr old girl murdered, shot in the back by a drug dealer because she'd seen his face.

  he's just got 40yrs in jail.

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  Wasted North of England Katie? The whole of it's wasted....chuck!

  There are good bits though.

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  Do we need to experience the bad to know the good??

  by lowden in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  inspired by a few posts from the 'suffering' thread, i pose the above question.. is it really necessary to experience or even know of evil deeds in order to appreciate good, benevolence, peace.. certain peoples and indigenous tribes have lived in peace and probably still do with little, if any, disturbance and malevolence within their communities.

  they don't need evil to appreciate good, surely.. one current headline story over here in britain is of a 7yr old girl murdered, shot in the back by a drug dealer because she'd seen his face.

  he's just got 40yrs in jail.

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  Katie Kitten, ta very much chuck!! I like your sense of humour, in general that isAhem!

  I like your answers people. I also agree that we need knowledge of the darkness but how deep that knowledge is, happens to be of great importance. Stating the bleedin' obvious maybe but what i'm saying is that the world doesn't need evil, depravity and the like. Some believe we need that crap in the world but people don't need to die horrible violent deaths, or be subject to some other horror for me to appreciate my good lot in life.

  I once had a guy say to me that there was no such thing as good and evil. WTF??

  What is good and what is evil?

  We as humans have set those standards largely based upon something we feel in our guts, something inside generally moves us to know what is right and wrong. True it is also sometimes based upon certain areas of our upbringing or what part of the earth we were raised in but (i'm gonna go all spiritual on ya here) i really think that we of the human race are beings of love and light and we do not need to experience bad to know the dark side exists.

  Thanks for your answers.

  Peace

  Lowden
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  Do we need to experience the bad to know the good??

  by lowden in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  inspired by a few posts from the 'suffering' thread, i pose the above question.. is it really necessary to experience or even know of evil deeds in order to appreciate good, benevolence, peace.. certain peoples and indigenous tribes have lived in peace and probably still do with little, if any, disturbance and malevolence within their communities.

  they don't need evil to appreciate good, surely.. one current headline story over here in britain is of a 7yr old girl murdered, shot in the back by a drug dealer because she'd seen his face.

  he's just got 40yrs in jail.

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  lowden

  Inspired by a few posts from the 'suffering' thread, i pose the above question.

  Is it really necessary to experience or even know of evil deeds in order to appreciate good, benevolence, peace.

  Certain peoples and indigenous tribes have lived in peace and probably still do with little, if any, disturbance and malevolence within their communities. They don't need evil to appreciate good, surely.

  One current headline story over here in Britain is of a 7yr old girl murdered, shot in the back by a drug dealer because she'd seen his face. He's just got 40yrs in jail. Now that's a really upsetting story but does it make me appreciate good??

  Surely it's sufficient to know what will happen if you take a certain action, rather than to take part in it?

  I know it's a bit of an 'old chestnut' but i thought i'd throw it open.

  Peace

  Lowden
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  Why does god allow suffering?

  by GBSJG in

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  i always had trouble with answering that question.

  if there is a god why is there so much suffering?

  so i looked up the offical explanation of the wts in the bible teach book chapter 11 paragraph 12 says: let us consider an illustration.

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  Love2bworldly said

  I really wish if there is an Almighty God up there, that people who are truly evil like terrorists/suicide bombers/child molesters would have an instant heart attack and not be filling up space.

  It's a simple concept but right up my street of thought l2bw.

  There is no reason to let a suicide bomber press the button, a child molester torture and murder a child...NO REASON. NO ISSUE IS BIG ENOUGH TO LET THESE THINGS HAPPEN!! The ISSUE of Universal Soveriegnty is between god and satan according to the WTS. Well piss off and have your argument on another planet, find another playground. Sick, sick, sick!

  But of course....it's just a sick story used to control and befuddle vulnerable minds. It makes me soooo angry that people try and portray the bible god as a god of love. OH MY GOD!!! That used to be meeeee.

  Peace

  Lowden
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  Came out to my parents

  by jstalin in

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  just wanted to write about my experience in coming out to my parents in the last two weeks.

  it's a long story, but my sister and i are both gay, but we haven't come out to our parents until now.

  my sister and i have been debating with each other the best way to come out to them because we've known that it would be a serious blow to them.

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  Well done jstalin, well done indeed!

  One of my brothers is gay and he went through all the turmoil that you and your sis' have probably gone through.

  Realisation of sexual preference, coming out, acceptance, loss of friends, telling your parents (wow that must be hard) etc, etc.

  You've more to go through and address i'm sure but that must have been a great weight off the shoulders.

  Peace

  Lowden
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  Why does god allow suffering?

  by GBSJG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i always had trouble with answering that question.

  if there is a god why is there so much suffering?

  so i looked up the offical explanation of the wts in the bible teach book chapter 11 paragraph 12 says: let us consider an illustration.

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  Listen, i'm not a dog lover but i couldn't even bear to see a dog suffer. I couldn't even begin to think of letting a fellow human suffer if i had the power to stop it!!

  There is no explanation for allowing suffering and as far as i can see.....there is no god, there can't be.

  We don't need to read a long convoluted tale from the WTS trying to explain away the suffering issue.

  It's just common sense, not deep philosophy or religious mysticism.

  Would you let a dog suffer if you had it in your power to stop that suffering???? It's not that hard to figure.

  Peace

  Lowden
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  Fluff a dub: Brushes with Fame?

  by Crumpet in

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  so who have you met who is famous or slightly famous and under what circumstances?

  (for the benefit of cross atlantic variations in celebrity - attach a pic and/or explanation of who that celeb is) .

  or have you never met anyone even slightly famous but have aspirations to do so!

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  Ok here goes (could blow my cover though)

  My brother was the British light middle weight boxing champion and his son (me nephew) is currently the World WBU featherweight champ. Trains with Amir Khan. Famous enough?

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  thinkin of goin back

  by searching4truth in

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  i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.

  i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.

  i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.

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  Hmmmm

  Integrity to oneself is much more important than getting others to see why you've followed the course you have, s4t.

  Who are you living for? Whose life is it?

  I appreciate and understand CoolHand's explanation for the return but really......this is a test of your love and self respect for yourself. You need prove or explain nothing to no-one.

  Going back also means living a lie. Your life will be a LIE my friend.

  That said, i can see how tough this is for you.

  Which pill will you take??

  Peace and love to ya

  Lowden
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  Another Deceitful Tactic by the WTBTS.

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as most informed jehovah's witnesses know, the wtbts is very good at painting a pretty picture of themselves by cleverly wording things to outsiders, yet not revealing the specifics of their beliefs.. below is an example from their official website regarding whether or not they shun members who choose to leave them.

  they do not tell the public of the interogation they impose on members who wish to quietly leave ( fade ).. notice they mention how they are more than happy to restore those who exit, but fail to mention the types of questions they ask to those who leave them.. while they admit they shun those who verbally express they no longer wish to be a jehovahs witness, they do not tell the public they coerce that very statement from those who try to leave peacefully and quietly.

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  Liars and DAMN liars

  When i was DFed they didn't try one bit to save me, they just wanted me out!

  Their warped rules are so twisted and convoluted that they don't know arse from head.

  Dismembered you're a very funny guy.

  Peace

  Lowden
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  A bit reluctant

  by saki2fifty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.

  even a bit nervous... .

  i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.

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  Welcome Saki

  Go back to the top of page 2 and read James Thomas's post again!

  He encapsulates my feelings very well. I've been where you are, not knowing or believing that there could possibly be a life outside of the org'. WRONG!

  A god that says 'Worship me or i will kill you' is a psycopathic MONSTER!!

  Jehovah is a 'figment' my dear, used to petrify and subjugate the people. He doesn't exsist.

  That is an extremely hard concept to realise and take in, i know but remember it and think on it.

  Come back here, you will be welcome.

  Peace to ya.

  Lowden