I would like to donate using paypal but does he accept credit cards or is it paypal balances only??
Thanks in advance
Morwen
thankyou for donating to this worthy cause.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
I would like to donate using paypal but does he accept credit cards or is it paypal balances only??
Thanks in advance
Morwen
i have been doing some research recently on the society's most recent teachings and statements about the united nations.
as we all know, the society has made some very extreme, very negative statements about the united nations in the past, even as recently as 1999: *** dp chap.
15 p. 269 par.
Thanks,this is VERY interesting. Not surprising to me though,whatever it takes to cover their butts is all that counts for the WTBTS.
Morwen
i haven't been on in a while so i've been perusing the threads today and i do have to say the last few have been fantastic.
i find this a great forum to post something learned, something funny, or to just get something off your chest.
we each have our own way of de-brainwashing(if you want to use that term)ourselves but we also share quite a bit in common.
I am also very thankful for this discussion forum! I have learned alot and it has helped me deal with leaving the only life I've ever know "IN" the JW religion.With my entire extended family for several generatons and the only friends I've ever known being "IN" and having to walk away from them for what I know is right.They all think I'm worse than the devil but I don't care anymore. It's nice to know I'm not the only one dealing with this crap.And I enjoy seeing the exchange of ideas on all subjects posted here.
I don't get to post as often as I would like.With 4 young children and dial-up(so stink'n SLOW,but it's all I can get out here) I only get to peek in here maybe once a day if I'm lucky. One of these days I need to post "my story" when I get a chance.
Morwen(of the newbie class too,Welcome brother)
someone asked a question in the "what generation are you" thread:.
were you "raised in the truth," or did you "come into the truth?".
i was raised..
born and raised .....so was my husband.....and just about everyone else in my wacky a$$ family.
Anyone remember a talk given a few years ago at a DC that said we were no longer suppose to use the term "born and raised in the "truth" you were to say you were "raised around the" truth"??? I remember thinking......what the?? Isn't that what it is...born and raised....shrugged shoulders and still used the no-no term anyway.
Morwen
4th gen on my Dad's side, 3rd on my Mom's side
My husband was 2nd gen (his Dad is the only one "in")
I have 2 sets of Gr Grandparents (on my Dad's side) that became JW's in the 1930's I think. Our kids were going to be 5th gen but HA HA!!! my hubby helped me to REALLY see what this religion is about,thankfully!
Morwen
my daughter and her husband told me and her mom last night that she is due december 24th!
it will be our first grandchild.
she'll be 28 and is sooooooo excited!
Congratulations! Wish my parents and father-in-law were this happy when they get a new grandchild!! They have the typical JW thinking that having children is a bad thing to do "in this system" and they "frown" on it. Sad... They love their grandkids but in the very same breath they think it's nearly disgusting when I tell them their going to have another grandbaby.whatever!
Enjoy being a GrandPa!!!
Morwen
do they provide guidelines about safely entering homes?.
if a jw enters a home for the first time, what kind of safety precautions are taken by the car group to ensure the safety of the jw?.
for instance i was shocked to find out my jw wife wasn't instructed by the elders as to which homes belonged to registered sex offenders.
I remember a few years back (maybe 3 years ago) at an assembly in California (the Bay area) there was a "brother" on stage who was telling the story about what had happened to his wife. She was a "pioneer" I believe and was conductiong a "free home bible study" with a women, when in comes some guy( I can't remember if it was the womens ex boyfriend or gang related or what??) but he pulls out a gun and starts shooting and kills the "pioneer sister" and I think the other women died as well(not sure though). That poor "brother" was so heart broken,understandably,and they had 3 or 4 kids that he had to now care for himself,and he had a typical low paying JW job. As I sat there listening to this I wondered about all the millions of times I heard how angels and holy spirit was helping/protecting all those in the witnessing work especially the "pioneers". I had just went through a tramatic event with our second child dying within minutes of being born. So my preception of how alot of the JW's think about things like this, changed for me. I even had a long time "pioneer sister" who was dying from cancer come up to me, a few days after loosing our son, and say,"now we're even". And all the other stupid remarks you hear like how "jehovah blessed me this time" with the birth of our next child( he forgot to bless me the time before ya know,my faith needed to be tested). I guess I've got a little off subject but I was a 4th generation JW and the only thing I was ever told was if your a "sister" to go in "service" in two's.
Morwen
I don't know if this is what your looking for but....this was posted a while back on a thread here but I can't remember who posted it(sorry,but thanks to whoever you are!) I copied and pasted it into an email to send to my family.
Morwen
Here you go, Below is how the Tablet mentioned in the "Insight into the Scriptures" book is displayed at the British Museum as of 23 March 2006. Interestingly Enough some idiot at the WTBTS graphic design dept has not only got the tablet upside down but back to front, so the text reads the wrong way.
Then the two Lachish Letters. These prove the date to NOT be 607 BCE?
Here they are as of the above date
The reason i am asking for more details is because i intend to come down to the M useum at some point. Are there any other things at the Museum that will prove the date of Jerusalem's destruction by the Babylonians in 586/7 BCE?
Well there's this display as well...
i was on the phone speaking with verne thoren, presiding overseer of the willow springs, nc congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
he tells me he knows of my possesssion of the flock book.
he knows of my involvement on this site.
Wow you have a great bunch of friends here Richie! What support your getting! Hang in there
Morwen
i met someone earlier this week whose ex-spouse is a jw - part of a fairly prominent jw family in this area.
although never baptized, this person studied and went to meetings for about 4 years.
this person even disclosed that they had progressed to the point of being an unbaptized publisher.
Blondie you got that right ,LOL! I remember my Dad having us kids go into the bathroom to count how many were in there.There was always babies in there with thier Mom's so I would just count the Mom's. Well my dad one time asks me if I was sure there was only 2.I was like ...well yeah besides the babies.So he then informed us that we were to count all babies who were old enough to wave (about 8 months of age or so) he said as long as they have the ability to point to the sky when you ask them where Jehovah lives then that counts as a witness.Ha!
Unclebruce Thanks for a good laugh! You had me laughing out loud!
Now that I informed my parents I'm no longer going to go to meeting anymore my Mom trys to get a word in here or there about JW stuff and just told me I'm now her return visit.Whatever!
Morwen