As soon as I saw it,it made me laugh cute
Morwen
As soon as I saw it,it made me laugh cute
Morwen
my cousin is at end of her rope..... even though she tells me how she does not want to marry a "worldly" man she can't help but to conclude that that's what's gonna happen.
she's now "talking" to a brother that's in her words "brokeback" but o.k in her opinion.
she's also frustrated that he although enjoys sneaking over her house and fooling around with her, he has made no effort to say, "roll with me, i wanna be your man.
Sadly,I think there are alot of women in this religion going through this.I can think of several.
I'm wondering if there are any examples you could show her that are "good"(using the word loosly) even though one of them is NOT a JW???? Let me try to explain a situation I know of...
A JW women was married with 3 kids,had been married for about 12yrs or so.The wife was done,she couldn't take it anymore and divorced .She get's DF'd,meets a nice worldly guy and gets married. The guy she snagged has money,he's very nice looking,he's never beat her,and he's all around nice & a manly man.
She get's reinstated(which I'm sure her husband would rather her not done but he seems okay with it).And she also had a child by him.Their daughter is now 15 yrs. old. They seem to get along with each other,and she will brag privately to others about how much money she has and how nice a husband she snagged and how happy she is now, compared to what she had before.And get this....she's a reg. pioneer (barf!).
So she went out and completly broke the rules and she has (what appears to everyone) a good marriage.Now, I do not understand how in the heck she can go door-to-door and preach to people about "morality" when she broke all the rules got exactly what she wanted and is preaching to you that you can't do the same,what a hypocrite. Do you get what I'm saying though? Am I making sense or does this sound stupid,LOL?
She took the" hit" got the punishment,snagged what she wanted,came back "in" and is now a reg. pioneer. So what religious harm did it really do to her?? Is it as "bad" as the JW's say it is?? How many JW's would now walk up to her and tell her she's not approved of by god and isn't going to "make it"?? There's this loophole, they say ...oh don't do this or else.... but then you have people who do it and then once the person pops back "in the game" then everything is okay and they hush up about the whole sinning thing and preach "love","repent" and "forgiveness".(even though I know it's all a binch of sh**).
She did everything the JW way which= Disaster
She breaks all the rules which= Success
Now why does this contradiction exist if something isn't seriously flawed? Jw's preach to no end the "success" of doing things "their" way and marrying ONLY other JW's but reality speaks for itself, JW marriages are exploding in untold numbers.
My cousin is unbaptized,his wife is baptized. When they told everyone they were getting married her mother was livid! She dragged her before the elders and they told her if she married my cousin they would "mark" her... bla bla bla. Well she told them she didn't care she was doing it anyway,which totally pissed off the elders. So when she got married they announced from the stage, she was "marked" ( this was 2 yrs. ago). But she will tell you point blank,"I got what I wanted".So again... she broke the "rules",took the hit,and got what she wanted.
I agree with jgnat and blondie about really taking the time to notice other "worldly"(normal!) poeple and their family life/marriages. Do they really live life as bad as the JW's say they do?? What.... like JW's ONLY have successful families?? Yeah right! List how many JW's you know of that have divorced and how many times they have divorced??? How many have cheated or been cheated on?? My list is huge.
Don't know if that helps,just my two cents worth!!!! I wish the best for your cousin!!
Morwen
every once in a while i hear a jw say "if i hadn't been raised in the truth, i never would have come into the truth.
" have you ever heard that?
wishful thinking?
I remember as a young teenager wondering if I was not raised as a JW,if I would have ever "come in" on my own.
I had doubts about that because looking at everything "worldly" people got to do having fun,I was left to go.......... preaching as much as possible-every weekend,5 meetings a week,making sure to study for all those 5 meetings,prepare and give talks,family study,personal study, which means you go to school or work for 5 days a week then your suppose to go preaching on Sat. morning & afternoon then on Sunday go to the friggin public talk/WT study.So you have MAYBE slim parts of Sat and Sun. to do what you like but even then your suppose to be preparing for the next weeks meetings and service.And if you were to snag a bit of fun/free time,you were to feel gulity about it!!
And your still NEVER DOING ENOUGH!!! But then the thought of the narrow path being hard but it leads to life would kick in(now I'd like to kick myself in the @$$ for being so stupid)
Fun was evil,parties were evil,sex was evil,girls were evil,even fun thoughts were evil,everything besides the WTS was evil, Grrrrrrrrrr! I'd like to think I would have never been in this crazy cult had I not been born into it.I'm just happy to have made it out when I did, thanks to my great "thinking for himself" husband who spent many hours talking and reasoning with me,wished it would have been sooner but oh well.I'm FREEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! Free I tell you!!!
I hope to teach my children,and my children's children about the hard lesson I've learned and never to repeat it.
Morwen
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i,ve done a few, but one of the best was going to see strippers with two other young brothers.. anyone else do anything fun or taboo?
What is the naughtiest thing you ever did during a dist./circuit assembly?
Me and Hubby were at the DC at Cow Palace in San Fransisco. I was sitting there totally bored and horny.I leaned over and whispered this to my husband.He suggested we go out to the van and "get it on".I thought.... oh what would jehovah think of me if I did that?,LOL. Ahhh it was just to tempting!!!! Needless to say,we had some fun and were trying not to be noticed as the "parking lot patrol" brothers would pass by and we tried not to rock the van so much,hee hee!
We walked back in and sat down at our seats,I had the "wind blown" hair look and rosey cheeks on my face. That's the only thing I remember about that DC
Morwen
thankyou for donating to this worthy cause.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
I would like to donate using paypal but does he accept credit cards or is it paypal balances only??
Thanks in advance
Morwen
i have been doing some research recently on the society's most recent teachings and statements about the united nations.
as we all know, the society has made some very extreme, very negative statements about the united nations in the past, even as recently as 1999: *** dp chap.
15 p. 269 par.
Thanks,this is VERY interesting. Not surprising to me though,whatever it takes to cover their butts is all that counts for the WTBTS.
Morwen
i haven't been on in a while so i've been perusing the threads today and i do have to say the last few have been fantastic.
i find this a great forum to post something learned, something funny, or to just get something off your chest.
we each have our own way of de-brainwashing(if you want to use that term)ourselves but we also share quite a bit in common.
I am also very thankful for this discussion forum! I have learned alot and it has helped me deal with leaving the only life I've ever know "IN" the JW religion.With my entire extended family for several generatons and the only friends I've ever known being "IN" and having to walk away from them for what I know is right.They all think I'm worse than the devil but I don't care anymore. It's nice to know I'm not the only one dealing with this crap.And I enjoy seeing the exchange of ideas on all subjects posted here.
I don't get to post as often as I would like.With 4 young children and dial-up(so stink'n SLOW,but it's all I can get out here) I only get to peek in here maybe once a day if I'm lucky. One of these days I need to post "my story" when I get a chance.
Morwen(of the newbie class too,Welcome brother)
someone asked a question in the "what generation are you" thread:.
were you "raised in the truth," or did you "come into the truth?".
i was raised..
born and raised .....so was my husband.....and just about everyone else in my wacky a$$ family.
Anyone remember a talk given a few years ago at a DC that said we were no longer suppose to use the term "born and raised in the "truth" you were to say you were "raised around the" truth"??? I remember thinking......what the?? Isn't that what it is...born and raised....shrugged shoulders and still used the no-no term anyway.
Morwen
4th gen on my Dad's side, 3rd on my Mom's side
My husband was 2nd gen (his Dad is the only one "in")
I have 2 sets of Gr Grandparents (on my Dad's side) that became JW's in the 1930's I think. Our kids were going to be 5th gen but HA HA!!! my hubby helped me to REALLY see what this religion is about,thankfully!
Morwen
my daughter and her husband told me and her mom last night that she is due december 24th!
it will be our first grandchild.
she'll be 28 and is sooooooo excited!
Congratulations! Wish my parents and father-in-law were this happy when they get a new grandchild!! They have the typical JW thinking that having children is a bad thing to do "in this system" and they "frown" on it. Sad... They love their grandkids but in the very same breath they think it's nearly disgusting when I tell them their going to have another grandbaby.whatever!
Enjoy being a GrandPa!!!
Morwen