Adult children from "divided households."
One JW parent, one normal.
Beat with the "Truth" schtick all along but never baptized.
We float freely between both worlds. Never shunned.
Draw from that what you may.
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What group within the Witnesses has the highest drop out rate?
by Ultimate Axiom inif you could categorise jehovahs witnesses into their various groups, i.e.
publisher, auxiliary pioneer, regular pioneer, special pioneer, missionary, co, do, bethel worker, born-ins, etc etc, (and you can subdivide into as many groups as you wish) what group do you think has the highest drop out rate?
i remember an ex ny bethellite saying that bethel cured him of the watchtower, and after reading the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/160509/1/warren-schroeder-from-bethel-on-freddy-kline-and-the-apostate-books my guess is that it would be ny bethellites, but i am interested to know if there is a consensus on this, or on any other group, or no group at all..
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December 15 Watchtower --- A New Low in WT Anti-Intellectualism
by Room 215 ini wonder whether any of you took note of the article in the 12/15 study edition wt "the simplified watchtower .. why introduced" i couldn't believe they actually had the temerity to put such tripe into print and onto the record.. i was flat-out astonished with its put-down of vocabulary building and self-improvement:.
one egregious example: " the time spent looking up words and explaining expressions (ostensibly from the "smart people's" watchtower) is now spent gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson.".
one jw cited in the article actually blames her college education for causing her to fall into the bad habit of "speaking and thinking a way that was more complicated than necessary.
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gaining an understanding of the scriptures and how they fit into the lesson
Shouldn't it be the other way around: The lesson fit the scriptures instead?
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Kids Without God: You're Not the Only One
by betterdaze inkids without god for the millions of young people around the world who have .
embraced science, rejected superstition, and are dedicated to being good without a god!.
in an effort to strengthen and support kids and teenagers who dont happen to believe in a god, the american humanist association is promoting its newly created website: kidswithoutgod.com.
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Kids Without God for the millions of young people around the world who have
embraced science, rejected superstition, and are dedicated to being Good Without A God!
In an effort to strengthen and support kids and teenagers who don’t happen to believe in a god, the American Humanist Association is promoting its newly created website: KidsWithoutGod.com. This engaging resource offers a welcoming home for humanist, atheist and other non-traditionally religious kids where they can find information untainted by supernaturalism on a wide range of topics, including religion in public schools, science, discrimination, sexuality, and reading suggestions. …
“Whether they already made up their minds to reject supernatural explanations, or are just questioning, it’s time to make available an online resource that’s built just for kids without God,” said Roy Speckhardt, executive director of the American Humanist Association. “These kids may be from traditionally religious families, or from families like that of President Barack Obama, whose mother was a secular humanist. KidsWithoutGod.com will be a friendly online community for kids who might be too shy to ask an adult directly what it’s like to be good without a god.” …
KidsWithoutGod.com is actually two websites, one for teens and one for younger children, both accessed through the same domain.
“With the plethora of websites geared toward teaching kids about Christianity, Judaism, or Islam, we’re pleased to add humanism to the discussion,” added Speckhardt. “Kids should know there’s another way to learn about morals and values—it doesn't need to come from traditional religion.”
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Books that make you go hmm....
by jgnat init's occurred to me that i have been reshaped by the books i have read, taking my new knowledge for granted, and forgetting that those around me have not been on the same journey.
as a consequence sparks fly, as iron sharpening iron, as we strive to understand each other (or to insist that we are not the same).
there are a few books that stand out, as i refer to them over and over again.
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New sad song: 0940 Our Spiritual Mother
by 9.40am inyou might like our new song on you tube titled '0940 our spiritual mother' about the experience her 'children' have had as jehovah's witnesses.
it's a reworded version of mother (pink floyd) set to new and historic watchtower images.. some who've already seen it have been kind enough to describe it as 'incredibly sad', 'powerful' and even 'poignant'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3krimouav0&feature=youtu.be .
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Is anyone here hooked on Downton Abbey?
by exwhyzee inmy wife got me started watching this show last year.
we've downloaded the previous seasons on netflix and have found it to be really well done.
the story line, scenery,costumes,old cars and compelling characters have us hooked.
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BORN-INS! What Were The Most Annoying Quotes Your Parents Would Say?
by OneStepOut93 inregarding worldly people, shows or toys?
etc...what quotes annoyed you the most?.
for me it was "well, you have to remember, they're worldly"... "don't trust anyone who isn't in the truth" "they may be nice but they are not friends of jehovah"... just a few to name.
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"If this was ancient Israel times I could stone you to death."
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Anonymous v. Silentlambs... things are starting to get ugly
by cedars inbowen fights back.... .
http://www.silentlambs.org/trustsilentlambs.htm.
cedars.
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I can't be the only one to observe that this character assassination against Bill Bowen bears unmistakeable similarities in writing style to articles on JWSurvey.
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Sure, she can pray anytime… but she'll never hold a microphone.
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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN
by 00DAD inthere are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .
[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.
[if !supportlists]ii.
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Bravo, 00DAD!
I can't speak for others on JWN, but I'd like to point out to lurking elders that I have no qualms with any individual Witnesses or congregations. Most whom I've known for 40+ years (since pre-1975) are sincere worshippers who are stuck on a hamster wheel of rehashed meetings and unproductive field service, just trying in their heart-of-hearts to avoid displeasing Jehovah. Waiting patiently for an Armageddon that's yet to arrive just one year scant of 2014, some have passed away faithful in the interim.
I was raised in "The Truth", never baptized, never disfellowshipped. I choose to ignore your "authority" as elders. It has no bearing on my life whatsoever. However I do have family still mentally/emotionally trapped in the Watchtower's web of deceit, as I once was too. And they live on your every word spoken from the platform, every ounce of counsel given personally to deal with hardships and "endure to the end."
For that, I most certainly DO hold you accountable as chosen representatives of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. (Read Isaiah 32:2)
It is the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society's teachings that have splintered otherwise loving and intact families, curtailed rewarding lives and careers, denied proper education, dishonored females, and destroyed children's precious innocence. It is the WTBTS that has replaced Jesus with needless fear and endless demands for veneration of themselves, the "Slave," the "organization."
And as someone who has accepted a leadership position within the WTBTS, you bear legal responsibility for these crimes before mankind, and an even more so, before your creator. Yes, YOU.
No different than if you were a manager employed by a "worldly" company whose owners knowingly sell spoiled food, or market dangerous, life-threatening products to an unsuspecting public.
When you discover you've worked for "Corporation Evil" all along — through no fault of your own —
Does your Bible-trained conscience kick in? Does it allow you to stay on the job?
Or do you thoroughly research the issues involved like a Berean at Acts 17:11 and resign your duties with integrity before both God and humanity?
I am not asking you to leave the only family and friends you have ever known. I am asking you to do some research, or "due diligence" as we say in the business world, about the publishing company you volunteer for. I simply suggest that you step down if the results are not in alignment with your Bible-trained conscience.
Thanks for reading this far. So many vital topics to consider (and a few you may have never even heard about) are thoroughly covered at jwfacts.com.
