Brigid,
Beautiful post.
Nikki
there is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.
(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.
) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.
Brigid,
Beautiful post.
Nikki
there is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.
(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.
) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.
Terry,
I have just read your post today from 4/17. It really made me think and therefore I will make a confession. I really do not know for sure if I should believe in God or Jesus or not. I am an agnostic. I have always felt this way since I can remember, even while I played the JW part. I just never admitted it to myself nor did I tell anyone else up until I left when I was 18. Since then I have not put much thought in God or Jesus. Yet, since I have been participating in this forum, I find myself thinking about it more often. Not in a bad way, just wondering. I just do not feel I need confirmation right now, I figure "lets see what happens". Maybe some people cannot accept this, which I understand, but for me, its OK. I have a very fulfilling life, and I feel good inside, that a great thing.
This is just me. Perhaps I worry about other things that are a bigger deal for me, then they would be for you. To be honest, I really do not take God or Jesus too seriously. Is that bad? Maybe, maybe not. I really do not know for sure. I do not feel God or Jesus in my heart at all. When I look at my life, I feel fullfilled, happy, I have a great husband (he cute too :), my kids are adorable and I love them to pieces, I have a great job, I work hard, I live my life...Am I suppose to feel God or Jesus and this is the reason while I feel happy? No, I do not pray, I do not feel God or Jesus in me at all. So, how come I am happy without God or Jesus in my heart? I do not know and its OK.
Terry, I apprecaited what you wrote very much.
Nikki
it probably was one of my few happy moments of being a jw.
my mom, dad, and i were asked to be in the modern day drama, think it was in 1988-1990 (not sure exactly).
i played a worldly girl named "dolly winters" who was considered a bold and brazon girl who eventually studied to become one of jws because of a good example jw that she went to school with.
Effer...
Sound like you were in the same drama I was in, did you play "Dolly Winters" and you were tempting a JW boy at school named "Randy" and one of your lines was "huh, is she your girl"? I think you were in the same one as me which I did mention this in my 1st post to start the subject, please let me know, what a small world...
Nikki
it probably was one of my few happy moments of being a jw.
my mom, dad, and i were asked to be in the modern day drama, think it was in 1988-1990 (not sure exactly).
i played a worldly girl named "dolly winters" who was considered a bold and brazon girl who eventually studied to become one of jws because of a good example jw that she went to school with.
Well, based on some of the posts here, my performance was NOT memorable, OK I am humbled, lol....
What I said above those to those who are from the area of course. I remember the practices were grueling, thats all we did for weeks. Please understand, for what I am about to say, that I was a young teenager at the time, I did not care how much I practiced because that meant more time with the boy I had a crush on (from my 2nd post)! How funny to look back on that, I was so crazy about this boy.
Nikki
it probably was one of my few happy moments of being a jw.
my mom, dad, and i were asked to be in the modern day drama, think it was in 1988-1990 (not sure exactly).
i played a worldly girl named "dolly winters" who was considered a bold and brazon girl who eventually studied to become one of jws because of a good example jw that she went to school with.
I remember when I was in this drama, I had the biggest crush on this brother who was one of the helpers in the drama. He was quite older than me but I thought for sure I had a chance. Turns out he was dating one of my best friends older sisters, I couldn't believe it. At the same time, he approached me and said "Nikki, its my understanding that you have a crush on me", I am like as red as a tomato with this blank stare. He basically told me I was too young, he was flattered, I was desvasted. I later saw him when I grew up, I did not think he was so cute anymore, and he completely hit on me, I was thinking "yuk", too bad for you...lol. Oh, the joys of being a teen as a JW.
I did have a blast playing a worldy girl, I had my "worldly outfit" at the beginning of the drama and my JW outfit (cause you know I became a JW at the end of the drama, lol) at the end (my mom had made it for me, it was so ugly).
Nikki
it probably was one of my few happy moments of being a jw.
my mom, dad, and i were asked to be in the modern day drama, think it was in 1988-1990 (not sure exactly).
i played a worldly girl named "dolly winters" who was considered a bold and brazon girl who eventually studied to become one of jws because of a good example jw that she went to school with.
It probably was one of my few happy moments of being a JW. My mom, dad, and I were asked to be in the modern day drama, think it was in 1988-1990 (not sure exactly). I played a worldly girl named "Dolly Winters" who was considered a bold and brazon girl who eventually studied to become one of JWs because of a good example JW that she went to school with. My parents played this couple that were sitting on the spititual fence, they would argue, etc. I actually had a wonderful time not because I was a part of something for the org, but because I always wanted to be an actress. We had to go to three different district conventions, one being in Cicero, Illinois (Hawthorne Race Track), where the drama was held on the race track, the dirt. We had to memorize our lines and lipsink. But after we in the drama, it was a couple of years before JWs stopped asking us about it, people told me I played such a good "worldly girl", here I have been for almost 15 years!
Nikki
when i used to read the prophecies of revelation and see the society's interpetation i often thought to myself, "how could this be"?
i shelved a lot of things, hoping that maybe i'd understand over time or the "light would get brighter".. as an elder, i used to wonder how they (the society) could tell the elders one thing and put into print another thing.
while the rank and file were being told at the watchtower studies how the elders were to not judge unfairly at judicial committees, the elders were told to be safe rather than sorry when it came to "removing the wicked man from our midst".
Yes, my parents acting one way in the congragation, then we would go home and all hell would break loose.
Nikki (a former elder and pioneer mother's daughter)
have you ever gotten slapped and dragged into the back room for a spanking because your mother or father accused you of pulling your skirt up during the meeting?
i was thinking of the little girls outgrowing their dresses and them becoming so short that it was hard to sit 2 hours with the skirt pulled down over your knees or just above, at the very least.
my sister's and my dresses were always too short when we sat down and could only keep them pulled down to a decent length when standing, not sitting.
I do not remember getting spanked at the KH, but I do remember going home many a nights and then I would get the beaten whether it was with a paddle or a belt, not found memories...
I wish I had something funny to say about it. I really do. But, it wasn't funny, it was humiliating.
Juni, you are a wonderful person, I know you mention how you feel guilty, but I assure you that your kids are truly apprecaitive to have their mom back. My mom says the same things you do (we reunited in 2000 after 8 years, I think you know this about me), today is today. There is absolutely nothing you can do to change the past, but it sure does seem like you raised your children the right way anyway, I am sure they appreciate you!!! I do.
Nikki
i have pondered this question on many occasions.
when i began to have 'doubts' and began to 'question' some doctrine, and particularly the lack of christian love, very little effort was made to 'snatch me out of the fire' as elders are admonished to do.
i have always wondered why we as jw's would spend countless hours trying to start bible studies with 'wordly' people, while at the same time ignoring those who are moving away from dead center of the organization.
I have not read all the posts because I had some thoughts....My answer would be that it depends on the Kingdom Hall. When I left at 18, there were so many that harrassed me until I was announced that I was disfellowshipped. Then I heard nothing from anyone even my parents...
After about 4-5 years, which I had moved out of state, then moved back, my parents must have gotten a hold of some Elders to contact me. They were so very sweet honestly, and I told then very sweet and honestly that I still do not want to be one of Jehovahs Witnesses. Then I have heard nothing ever since, I am fine with it. But, since being on this forum, and learning from what so many here have taught me (without them even knowing it), I dare them to come to my door or call me at home.
Nikki
i have just gotten myself an i-pod with loads of space...i have exhausted my choice of tunes and still have loads of space left 60+gb....so give me your essential tunes you know i will like.....i like every type of music without exception......ideas please
The Evolution of Robin Thicke, yes Alan Thicke's (Growing Pains) son. Theres a song called "Lost Without you", they play it on VHI and MTV all the time in the morning....Its sexy, so sexy...The CD is awesome, its a different type of R&B, at least I thing so.
Nikki