I am from Crystal Lake, have been out since 92. In 92, I had left the Lindenhurst hall, and before that I was at the Libertyville hall...these 2 are where I spent most of my childhood until I was 18.
Nikki
Nowman
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Ok- 1st Post here - Anyone from Chicago area?
by mjarka911 inhello and thanks for letting me be a part of this board.
i look forward to some lively and informative discussions.
i know some people from other boards in my area, but thought i would introduce myself and see anyone else is from the chicagor suburban area.. thanks.
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Beat to Hell.......were you as a child as a JW?
by restrangled inthere was a scripture about a rod.......it seemed to be in every other watchtower.....it was an excuse to beat children.
i was a little girl.
i was beat with my pants down every time they could.
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Nowman
Rebel,
Yes, there was a song with the chorus line of "he says use the rod", it was one of those songs after a talk on young people. I hope someone can get the title from the "brown colored" song book? I used to call my mom Mommy Dearest (remember the movie?) mostly silently. There was one time I made a joke about it to my mom, where she was scolding me for something, and I said Yes, mommy dearest. She went ballistic on me, I think I was 7-8 years old. I never called her that again, she was very against being called even "mother", she only wanted mom or mommy.
I rarely speak to her anymore these days, she is not mentally well, but when she calls me, and I am 35 years old on 3/8, she says, "hi Nik, its mommy"! Gives me the creeps.
Such a sad thread, I feel for all who have gone through it!
Nikki
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What Makes You Who You Are?
by Decided ini've been thinking about this for a while.
i hear people say god will judge you by your heart condition.
what gives you your heart condition?
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Nowman
I think DECIDED...that what you said in asking your questions, are all part of who we are. Some will need help in order to make their future better. Some will choose to live in the past, and live their life in anger and bitterness, seek no help, and then their life deteriorates, so to speak. Some may grow up into the person they should be later on through life experience, and just be.
I think it depends alot on mindset within that person.
Nikki
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Beat to Hell.......were you as a child as a JW?
by restrangled inthere was a scripture about a rod.......it seemed to be in every other watchtower.....it was an excuse to beat children.
i was a little girl.
i was beat with my pants down every time they could.
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Restangled~remember the young people song, where the chorus was "he says use the rod" la la la...my mom would look at me at that point in the song at the KH and smirk at me like it was a big joke.
I got hit with a wooden paddle until I was 16, I may have been 17. Pants down and all. As I got older it was worse. It would be the paddle 1st, then my mom would step in kicking and punching me...mom would slap me across the face if I decided to go above and beyond cleaning the house for her. This one time, she asked me to do a touch up vaccum, I decided to vaccum under the plant holders too, she saw me and freaked, and slapped me right across the face.
The last straw was when I was 16-17, got beat as above, then my mom sat me down in the kitchen in front of the microwave and proceeded to cut 8 inches off my hair to show me some humility.
I always hated the fact that they would want me to come out of my room and tell them that I loved them after the beatings. Why did they do that to me? Thinking about it makes me sick to my stomach....gotta clear my head...all the beatings were because I went school with other JW kids, and they would tell their parents what I was doing, sure I kissed a worldy boy, that is as bad as I was.
Enough said.
Nikki
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It's unanimous-women are confusing
by keyser soze init turns that men aren't the only ones who have trouble reading women.
it seems that women can't read other women, either.
according to a study conducted in germany, at least:.
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Nowman
Ok, I am a woman. Have not been in the dating scene for 9 years now. But, me being a woman, I will tell you what I would think and why it may have been hard to read me at times...
I never wanted to throw myself at anyone, so even when I knew I loved my hubby, I never showed this alot in the beginning because I figured he wanted a challenge. I figured he wanted the chase. If I was too open, perhaps it would have gotten boring? Perhaps it would not have been fun for him anymore, if I would have just laid eveything on the table in the beginning?
To be clear, I gave him enough to know I was interested, but not too much to give him the advantage. Honestly, I wanted the advantage.
Ya, I guess this is why women are hard to read, LOL.
Nikki
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Was there any particular song or music u were not allowed to listen to because it was inappropriate or it was deemed demonized?
by jetery ini remember there was this heavy metal group called wasp.
some of the witnesses said it stood for we are satans people and that wasnt even true.
stairway to heaven by led zeppelin was a no-no because they said if u played it backwards it talked about worshipping the devil.
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Nowman
Leolaia~
Seeing the Gratefull Dead was the 1st concert I went to after leaving the org back in 1992. I saw them at Soldier Field the last time Jerry Garcia performed live, at least I am pretty sure this is the case, I used to think the Dead were demon worshipers (because of my parents), but then you listen to their music, they acutally sounded more hippie-folkish, love them.
Sugar Magnolia, blossoms blooming...saw my baby down by the riverside...lah lah
Nikki
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Was there any particular song or music u were not allowed to listen to because it was inappropriate or it was deemed demonized?
by jetery ini remember there was this heavy metal group called wasp.
some of the witnesses said it stood for we are satans people and that wasnt even true.
stairway to heaven by led zeppelin was a no-no because they said if u played it backwards it talked about worshipping the devil.
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Nowman
Well-this brings back so many memories~
1. I was a teenager from late 80s-early 90s. That song, "you don't have to take your clothes off" was big then (it was in my school at least). I was allowed to listen to it, because it said you don't have to take your clothes off
2. song "secret lovers", was not allowed to listen to it
3. I went through a faze (i.e when the movie Stand by Me came out) where I litened to oldies, then I did not have to worry about my parents snapping because of what I was listening to
4. off the subject, but I think applies, I was not allowed to ride the Demon at 6-flags Great America because it was called the demon!
Nikki
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What steps did you take to stop your association with the congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhen i finally knew that the wts didn't have the truth,i decided to take steps to slow down and become an inactive member.
( i still have my whole family in.......so..... i prefer to remain inactive).
i took these small steps :.
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Nowman
I was a reported regular pioneer, and on a Monday in Oct 1992, I went out in service all day with my mom (also pioneer). I had been planning to leave 3 months prior. I had a secret boyfriend and we worked together. I worked for the family company too, so my dad the elder worked there too.
The only people that knew about me leaving were my boyfriend and his parents. They agreed to give me a place to stay, they were the nicest people, I will never forget how they helped me. Anyway, that particular Monday, my mom and I had taken separate cars in service. At the end of the day, I said Mom see you at home. I never went home at that point. I went to my boyfriends house. I shed no tears. Nothing, I was as cold as ice, I actually thought it was the best way to be with my situation.
My parents eventually found me. They called everyone. I agreed to meet with them at midnight. They had a family bible study with me, showed me scriptures, preached, they looked sad. I stayed cold. At the end, I said my decision is still the same, I no longer want to be a Jehovahs Witness. If I were to be emotional, I was afraid I would give in to them.
That was it. Did not get DFd right away, my dad had to make sure I committed fornication 1st (which I had not, until 3 months after I left, I was 18 and scared, excited, and young).
Nikki
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What's Your Favorite Breakfast Consist Of?
by minimus ini love breakfast!
and sunday is usually a laid back day to enjoy a good breakfast.
here's what i want tommorrow.
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Nowman
You can make this at home, but lately I love Starbucks low fat/low cholesterol breakfast sandwich, its very filling and gives you alot of energy.
multi grain english muffin
low fat cheddar cheese
3 slices of trukey bacon
1-2 egg whites
I had one today...again.
Nikki
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Were you Raised by an " Elder " Father in the Witnesses ?
by flipper inas i mentioned on another thread , it was very uncommon to ever get any commendation or recognition for any " good" accomplishments i ever did.
you know the jesus expression, " we are good for nothing slaves- what we have done is what we ought to have done.
" ridiculous.
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He was my stepdad starting at age 9 until I was 18, which was back in 92. Last time I saw my elder father, 16 years ago. He was strict, cold, and quiet. I actually tried to please him all the time, tried to make him happy. Just like the posts here, nothing was ever good enough.
I hated being a teenager and having a dad like him. For awhile, when I was 15-16, both my parents made me sit in between them at that the meetings, said it was setting a good example. Everything they did was so controlling...ugh. My mom just went along with it, until he would go too far with her...then all hell broke loose. We were the perfect litte JW familiy at the kingdom hall, but behind closed doors it was a different story in my house. I walked on my tip toes all the time. I remember the year before I planned to escape, I started feeling sick to my stomach all the time, I was always worried and stressed out.
Even my own friends were afraid of my parents, my dad was always known as the "stiff" elder...
Hated being an elder's daughter, and daughter of a regular pioneer too...
Nikki