Welcome to the board!
I look foward to reading the rest of your story when you are ready. I think you'll find the support you're looking for here.
SickofLies
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My Story
by XJW4EVR ini was adopted into a jw family in southern california.
my birth mother gave me up after 6 months (the terms mom & dad refer to my adoptive/real parents).
she gave me up due to the fact that she already had a three year old boy, and back in the late sixties it was not as socially acceptable to be a single mother.
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I have this really crazy idea, please help ( nope not fluff)
by lola28 infor a really long time i have believed that there is no such thing as god.
last night i had a talk with someone and this one idea came to me, what if there is a god, but he is not perfect, and where did this idea of god=perfect come from?
is there any scipture that says god is perfect?
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SickofLies
Regarding your last point, which I didn't think you were asserting as a significant point in your first reply on this issue, I would like to ask whether you have considered the impacts of religion on social development.
Anthropologically speaking, I think you shorten the influence of religion on things like the spread of agriculture, the formation of civilizations (which allowed for advances in sharing ideas farther within a single lifespan) the advent of writing and mediums on which to write, originally for the preservation of religious ideas, etc.
I think you are quite mistaken and provably so. Religion has directly led to quite a few leaps forward in technology. In fact, modern science could not have been nearly so successful in its current pursuits without the advent of technologies that were the direct result of religious "necessity".
I have not consider this argument, and I have no knowledge of any technology that has resulted as a necessity of religon. Could you provide some examples of this as this is not my area of expertise.
~ SoL
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I have this really crazy idea, please help ( nope not fluff)
by lola28 infor a really long time i have believed that there is no such thing as god.
last night i had a talk with someone and this one idea came to me, what if there is a god, but he is not perfect, and where did this idea of god=perfect come from?
is there any scipture that says god is perfect?
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SickofLies
You are correct. I am genuinely fascinated by what science discovers, and I don't attempt to discount it in the least. However, you mentioned the existence of "concise theories" regarding abiogenesis and that was what I was hoping your would share.
I mention concise theories exist for most elementary processes that occur in our known reality, I did not mention abiogenesis, you are the one that brought the subject up. You said that there had been no progress in this area and I merely stated that this is not correct; there has been progress in this area.
I'm not sure what your arguing for, are you saying that our inability to explain abiogensis with 100% certainty is an argument for creation? To me its really not a big issue of being able to describe exactly how life arose in the first place. The fact is we are here, and there are very good theories to explain how life has developed into the forms we see today. Although I gave you the leading theory for how RNA has evolved, you immediately pointed to the next step in the evolutionary chain. Weitherit has or hasn't been explained is not proof for God. The argument of: science can't explain X yet is not an argument for creation. Regardless of if it can be explained or not at the moment their is nothing to say that it wont be explained in the future. If anything history has taught us it is the ingenuity of the human race, I have full confidence that these questions will be answered in time. -
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We should hold our own memorial right here on JWD
by JH in.
wouldn't it be funny if on memorial night, we all opened a bottle of wine and drank some of it while posting.
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SickofLies
I'm in, I got my bottle of tequila and a case of MGD with memorial written all over it.
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I have this really crazy idea, please help ( nope not fluff)
by lola28 infor a really long time i have believed that there is no such thing as god.
last night i had a talk with someone and this one idea came to me, what if there is a god, but he is not perfect, and where did this idea of god=perfect come from?
is there any scipture that says god is perfect?
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SickofLies
Precisely my point. Experts in the field are completely unfettered by any need to justify their descriptions of how anything works. Just like a religion. So, if there is no basic difference between the metaphysical and inexplicable terms used by Science and those that are used by Religionists, why should one be preferred over the other.
Wrong again my friend, I'm sorry it appears as if you ignored my reply to your inquires for I have addressed your issues. To say that scientific experts don't justify their statements or explain them is just plain silly, what evidence do you have to back this up? There is a huge differece between science and religion as I stated earlier, sciece has real world applications where religion does not.
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Need some JW literature? Try this... :)
by GoingGoingGone ini got an email from a friend today describing some strange happenings at the meeting: .
" my wife was in the back room with the kids today and there was this guy who my wife later described as a little "scary looking" for some reason and was carrying an empty "bowling bag" (whatever that is.
anyway, this guy starts grabbing old literature from the library and putting it in his bag.
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SickofLies
You realize, that could land some jail time if you're caught?
I wont get caught.
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I need help.
by Geetarfreek! inhey people, .
here is the deal.
i used to have a fire inside me that was determined to make it as a famous musician in a band one day but it has recently been fading away from me.
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SickofLies
Well Prince consider this,
If you don't go after your dram and you end up in a dead end job that you hate and provides no finical security where will that leave you? You will have just as much trouble keeping your faith in that instance as well. Consider the point Jesus was making, he said that with God all things are possible, meaning that on our own no one can make it into paradise.
BTW,
Welcome to the board.
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proclaimers book question.
by moomanchu in.
under 1918 in the back of the book, it says rutherford gave a lecture on "millions now living may never die".. in the same paragraph it says the name of the lecture was "millions now living will never die".. what's up with that?
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SickofLies
Simple, the name of the talk is also the subject of the talk. Don't think about it to hard, its very simple.
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E-mail response from an old dub friend......
by schne_belly inokay, so i suppose i asked for this...but regardless i'm ready to puke!
last week i e-mailed an old "dub" friend from another city.
she's had some health issues and i hadn't heard from her for a few months, and wanted to know how she was doing....her brother also recently got married and i asked about that as well.
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SickofLies
It all depends on what you want, do you just want to remain friends or do you want to explain to her why you left?