SickofLies

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  • lola28
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    I have this really crazy idea, please help ( nope not fluff)

    by lola28 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    for a really long time i have believed that there is no such thing as god.

    last night i had a talk with someone and this one idea came to me, what if there is a god, but he is not perfect, and where did this idea of god=perfect come from?

    is there any scipture that says god is perfect?

    1. SickofLies
    2. AuldSoul
    3. SickofLies
  • SickofLies
    SickofLies

    AuldSoul; another long post to try and answer your questions...
    1) Where did the raw materials come from?
    The early earth is presumed to have provided all of the elements and chemicals needed for life to begin.
    2) How did monomers form?
    The Miller-Urey experiments in the late 40’s and early 50’s showed that organic molecules could be formed by inorganic processes under primitive earth conditions. By discharging electric sparks in a large flask containing boiling water, methane, hydrogen and ammonia, conditions presumed to be similar to those of the early earth, they produced amino acids and other organic molecules experimentally. Using variations of their technique, most of the major building blocks of life have been produced: amino acids, sugars, nucleic acid bases and lipids.
    Another source of amino acids and other organic molecule is meteorites. The amino acid content of the Murchison meteorite, for example, is surprisingly similar to that formed in the Miller-Urey experiments.
    Both by earth-formed and meteorite-delivered processes, the early ocean could have become the thin "organic soup" as the starting place for life. The first "organisms" presumably consumed these molecules both as building blocks and as sources of energy. Upon the exhaustion of these early molecules, other strategies had to be develop such as photosynthesis. The first forms of photosynthesis was probably non-oxygenic using inorganic molecules as a source of electrons to reduce carbon dioxide, however, when these sources were exhausted, oxygen generating photosynthesis was developed using water as the electron source. The generation of oxygen had a most dramatic effect on future evolution.
    3) How did polymers develop?
    Various suggestions about this process exist. Polymerization on clays or the evaporation of amino acid containing water near volcanic vents. Sidney Fox has demonstrated such polymerizations experimentally. Such reactions could have led to the polymerization of amino acids and nucleotides. Others believe that polymerizations occurred in cold environments where the polymers would be more stable.
    4) How did an isolated cell form?
    Harold Morowitz has proposed that the formation of closed, membrane vesicles was an early event in cellular evolution. Lipid molecules spontaneously form membrane vesicles or liposomes. ("Beginnings of Cellular Life", 1992, Yale University Press). Consider the following properties of membrane vesicles, which are also the properties of cells.
    1) They maintain separate stable phases in an aqueous environment.
    2) They maintain different chemical compositions between intra- and extra-cellular compartments.
    3) They maintain substantial transbilayer electrical voltages, pH differences, and oxidation potentials (necessary for chemiosmotic processes).
    4) They form spontaneously from abiotically formed amphipathic lipid molecules
    "What is impressive in simply listing the properties of vesicles is how many cellular features are already present in these simple systems. Strong reasons for assuming the importance of vesicles in biogenesis are their spontaneous formation and the continuity they make with contemporary cells in so many ways".
    5) How did reproduction begin?
    I have discussed this with you already in an earlier post; however to be concise, current theories suggest RNA came first. It could self-replicate and possibly serve as enzymes for protein synthesis. RNA has the ability to catalyze its own modifications without the use of protein enzymes. This as pointed out already si known as the RNA world view. Eventually the RNA it would be replaced by DNA and protein enzymes to take over information storage and enzymatic functions, respectively.
    Ribozymes exist and have been modified to carry out some of the important reactions of RNA replication such as stringing up nucleotides and oligonucleotides using ATP. Derived ribozymes can also be made to cleave chemical bonds including peptides. In translation on ribosomes it is probably the rRNA, not the protein, that forms the peptide bonds. Furthermore, ATP and all coenzymes are ribonucleotides which some consider are relics of the original RNA World. Thus there is reason to believe that there was an original RNA world which invented protein synthesis and only later was supplanted by DNA.
    The following is taken directly form one of my older biology text books:
    All life is cellular.
    All living things are from 50 to over 90% water, the source of protons, hydrogen and oxygen in photosynthesis and the solvent of biomolecules.
    The major elements of covalently bound biomolecules are carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur.
    There is a universal set of small molecules: (i.e. sugars, amino acids, nucleotides, fatty acids, phospholipids, vitamins and coenzymes.)
    The principle macromolecules are proteins, lipids, carbohydrates and nucleic acids.
    There is a universal type of membrane structure (i.e. the lipid bilayer).
    The flow of energy in living things involves formation and hydrolysis of phosphate bonds, usually ATP.
    The metabolic reactions of any living species is a subset of a universal network of intermediary metabolism (i.e. glycolysis; the Krebs cycle, the electron transport chain)
    Every replicating cell has a genome made of DNA that stores the genetic information of the cell which is read out in sequences of RNA and translated into protein.
    All growing cells have ribosomes, which are the sites of protein synthesis.
    All living things translate information from nucleotide language through specific activating enzymes and transfer RNAs.
    All replicating biological systems give rise to altered phenotype due to mutated genotypes.
    Reactions that proceed at appreciable rates in all living cells are catalyzed by enzymes.

    I state the above as further evidence that all life has a common origin.

  • lola28
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    I have this really crazy idea, please help ( nope not fluff)

    by lola28 in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    for a really long time i have believed that there is no such thing as god.

    last night i had a talk with someone and this one idea came to me, what if there is a god, but he is not perfect, and where did this idea of god=perfect come from?

    is there any scipture that says god is perfect?

    1. SickofLies
    2. AuldSoul
    3. SickofLies
  • SickofLies
    SickofLies
    A professor I worked with for a little while (as a TA for his courses) ;was interested in viral vectors for gene therapy too. Most of his students were working with a variant of BAV ...can't recall if it was BAV1 or BAV2 though. What virus are you working with?

    Well, an educated question, I am constantly surprised at how educated people here are, especially since the borg is so forbidding when it comes to education! I am working with adenovirus (Ad) and more recently adeno-associated virus (AAV) based vectors. My research is focused on vector targeting at the level of virus. I am working with my professor on both non-genetic approaches; that typically utilise bispecific antibodies that both neutralise wild-type virus tropism and provide a new cell binding capacity and genetic targeting strategies, the virus capsid can be engineered to express foreign ligands that target selected receptors in the absence or presence of additional modification to ablate the virus'natural tropism.

  • stillajwexelder
    21

    Push, Push, Push

    by stillajwexelder in
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    2. friends

    minimus started a thread -the push is really on to invite everyone to the memorial -and he is correct, i heard the same from the po, co and km.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/110528/1.ashx.

    after that there is the push to invite everyone to the special talk.. .

    1. DanTheMan
    2. stillajwexelder
    3. Pole
  • SickofLies
    SickofLies

    I personally plan on supporting their efforts by donating some Watchtower money at the memorial, hopefully everyone else attending will do the same.

  • Cabin in the woods
    16

    Number of people joining and the significance

    by Cabin in the woods in
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    2. friends

    wow, i have never seen it this quiet.

    must be with the weather clearing things are getting a bit more active for everyone.

    i have a question... since i joined about 6 weeks or so ago i have noticed people joining almost every day for a while.

    1. Cabin in the woods
    2. KW13
    3. greendawn
  • SickofLies
    SickofLies

    Indeed, I have been on this board for exactly one month today and I am amazed at how many new people have signed up since I've come here. I'm a rare case I think, I joined the same day I found the form. But then again I was already planning on leaving the borg, but I had no one I could talk to about what was going on or how I felt because all my friends/family were JW's. I would imagine that most people that join don't stick around very long, but it doesn't matter, the fact is that the message is spreading fast. I can't express in words how grateful I am to have found this place, it has relieved all the anxiety I was feeling, even though I knew the teachings were wrong, I wasn't 100% covinced I was doing the right thing until I came here. If not for this place I may have felt depressed, with no where else to go and have eventually returned to the vomit that the borg offers. After coming here I know I will never return.

  • ICBehindtheCurtain
    43

    The Secret is Out

    by ICBehindtheCurtain in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    hi all, i have come across some very important information and i wish to share it with anyone who wants to change their life for the better, i want you to know i have nothing to gain from this.

    i am very greatful to all of you who have contributed to helping me on this journey which began a little more than a year ago, you guys are grrrreat, thank you.

    http://www.thesecret.tv/.

    1. ICBehindtheCurtain
    2. Nathan Natas
    3. Nosferatu
  • SickofLies
    SickofLies

    This secret is nothing more than a sugar pill, if you believe it will work than it will, if you don't it won't. Simple as that.