Posts by GodisRight

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Is Gods correct name pronounced Jehovah?? What about the messiahs name?

by evergreen in

i thought i would ask this question as i have been reading some fascinating information on some other sites as to the correct pronunciation of gods real name?

also for that matter, i ask what jesus proper pronounced name is?.

if you go to another country and tell people your name and instead of calling you your name as you pronounced it, they automatically transliterate it into their own language and call you by the name thay have transliterated it in to; would that annoy you after awhile?

GodisRight

Also there is a consonantal 'ayin which is not mentioned in the description; Greek does not have this consonant so it is omitted. Moreover the vowel in the final syllable in the Greek is not "u" but the diphthong "ou", and the final -s of Iésous is nothing else than the nominative ending.

See the names of the male Greek gods and female Greek gods?

Males -- Zeus, Hades, Hermes, Ares, Hephetus, or the demigod Hercules and Perseus

Females -- Hera, Athena

Yeshua -- Aramic name ends in "ua" which in Greek is a females name.

Yeshua if pronuonceble in Greek would have been a female's name. The Greek put "s" after "e" and "u" vowels to signify a males name. We can all see this at work in the names of Gods that they worshipped. As you can see, a name ending with the "a" vowel signals a female name as in "Hera" and "Athena".

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Is Gods correct name pronounced Jehovah?? What about the messiahs name?

by evergreen in

i thought i would ask this question as i have been reading some fascinating information on some other sites as to the correct pronunciation of gods real name?

also for that matter, i ask what jesus proper pronounced name is?.

if you go to another country and tell people your name and instead of calling you your name as you pronounced it, they automatically transliterate it into their own language and call you by the name thay have transliterated it in to; would that annoy you after awhile?

GodisRight

I don't think anyone living today knows God's name. Only thing I know for sure is that God's short name is Yah. The full name I do not know.

Jesus real name is Yahushua <hebrew full name Yahshua <hebrew short name

Yehoshua < aramic full name Yeshua < Aramic short name

Yeshua turned into iesous y = i sh=so u=u a=s

Note: The greeks could not pronounce the sh sound so sh became so. In greek, a was femine and s was masculine so the a at the end of yeshua became s

The greek iesous then became Jesus in Latin. By the way, Joshua's real name is actually Yahushua, the same hebrew name of Jesus. You should Joshua as the person who led Israel into the promise land of Canaan.

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Were the Nephilim sterile? Did they have offspring?

by AuldSoul in

*** it-2 p. 492 nephilim *** .

increased wickedness.

the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with god, for they did not survive the flood, as did noah and his family.

GodisRight

As for the giants reproducing, 1 Enoch 7:5 claims that they had sex with "birds, wild beasts, reptiles, and fish," i.e. not with people

Hmm, does anyone think that maybe the dinosaurs are the result of this unholy union?

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WHO IS JOB?

by GodisRight in

there is not any record of job observing the sabbath.

yet he is god's greatest servant?

was he a non israelite or did he live before the exodus of the isrealites from egypt when the sabbath covenant was made?

GodisRight

The way in which an originally non-Jewish tale is adapted is reminiscent of two other examples: (1) The Book of Balaam Son of Beor, discovered in 8th-century BC plaster fragments at Deir 'Alla, tells an older and more polytheistic version of the non-Israelite Balaam tales later incorporated into Numbers, one of which makes Balaam a worshipper of Yahweh, and (2) Ahiqar, a story about an Aramaean vizier to Assyrian kings, was discovered in 6th-century BC Aramaic fragments in the Jewish colony of Elephantine, is far more polytheistic than the later monotheistic Jewish and Christian versions (and the allusions in 4th-century BC Tobit). I would suspect that there circulated in Judah in the time of the prophet Ezekiel a Yahwistic version of the Danel legend, and similarly there may well have an earlier non-Jewish versions of Job which were quite different in character.

This is the first time I have heard of the "Book of Balaam." I want to read it if that is possible. Initially Balaam didn't seem like such a bad guy until he seduced Israel into sinning against God.

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WHO IS JOB?

by GodisRight in

there is not any record of job observing the sabbath.

yet he is god's greatest servant?

was he a non israelite or did he live before the exodus of the isrealites from egypt when the sabbath covenant was made?

GodisRight

From the reasoning of those who point to Job being tested as proof the debbil is wrong, that man CAN keep his "integrity", and that if we wait long enough we'll all get a Hollywood ending ,that would mean that the Romans view of religion was the most correct. The Romans, inheriting (stealing?) from the Greeks, believed that we humans were just toys for the Gods to dick around with, i.e. we are here for their amusmnet. And, as such, we have no real "free will" except in only narrow, predetermined and prescribe ways.

Hmm, one of the apostles said that the idols the nations sacrifice to are demons, not gods. Certainly it was Satan who "dick" around with Job's life as the test was all his idea. The greek gods were demons. Look at what they were doing to people during Jesus day.

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WHO IS JOB?

by GodisRight in

there is not any record of job observing the sabbath.

yet he is god's greatest servant?

was he a non israelite or did he live before the exodus of the isrealites from egypt when the sabbath covenant was made?

GodisRight

That story is obviously mythical probably produced to make the Jews believe that observing the law though difficult will bring great rewards while not observing it will bring punishment. It's a myth-parable.

I see your point, but Job didn't observe the law? The law seems specific to Israel. Did Job didn't celebrate sabbaths, passovers, or God's laws of cleaniness. In my opinion, Job had easier than the Israelites except for the time he was handed over to Satan.

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WHO IS JOB?

by GodisRight in

there is not any record of job observing the sabbath.

yet he is god's greatest servant?

was he a non israelite or did he live before the exodus of the isrealites from egypt when the sabbath covenant was made?

GodisRight

I used Jah's treatment of Job and his children as an illustration of how we should feel about killing our pets and getting a new one to my sister-in-law.
Job just had some more children and he felt blessed, it didn't matter about the killing of his previous ones. If your pets get sick, just kill them and get some new ones.
Ken P.

Was God at fault for the death of Job's family? It seems that killing Job's family as part of the test was all Satan's idea: God didn't tell him to slay Job's family. Satan could have simply burned down Job's home and wiped out his live stock. But Satan took things to the extream and murder Job's servants and killed his children. Did God even know that the result of this test would cost Job his family? It seems to me that Satan intially critized all the wealth that God have given to Job. The conversation speaks of all the "flocks and herds" that were in Job's possession. God told Satan that everything that Job has in now in Satan's hands. Then the Devil took the test to the extream by murdering the man's family.

9 "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. 10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face 12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."
Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.

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Dogma of eternal punishment....(before I was a Dub)

by upside/down in

the dogma of eternal punishment and hell is one of the things that led me to question my faith.

we live in a temporal world/universe bound by time.

either (as the faithful believe) the world will be made new after the final judgment, or the universe and humanity will cease to exist (entropy and all that).

GodisRight

The dogma of eternal punishment and hell is one of the things that led me to question my faith.

We live in a temporal world/universe bound by time. Either (as the faithful believe) the world will be made new after the final judgment, or the universe and humanity will cease to exist (entropy and all that). In either case, no crime, no sin, committed in this life can have everlasting effects.

How then, can eternal punishment for a sin having only temporal effects be just?

My answer is that it is unjust.

u/d(of the trying to sound smart class

Well, there was a guy convicted of child molestation. Years later he was released. He raped a girl and then killed her to avoid going back to prison. I figure if God were to destroy this person forever, this guy would not able to harm anyone again.

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WHO IS JOB?

by GodisRight in

there is not any record of job observing the sabbath.

yet he is god's greatest servant?

was he a non israelite or did he live before the exodus of the isrealites from egypt when the sabbath covenant was made?

GodisRight

I have done some quick researching on biblegateway.com

It seems that James believes Job is a literal character.

James 5:11 (New International Version)

11 As you know, we consider blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job's perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.

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WHO IS JOB?

by GodisRight in

there is not any record of job observing the sabbath.

yet he is god's greatest servant?

was he a non israelite or did he live before the exodus of the isrealites from egypt when the sabbath covenant was made?

GodisRight

The fictional ;hero of the Book of Job is named after an older legendary character (along with Noah and Danel in Ezekiel 14:14,20). In both cases he is depicted as non-Israelite (cf., in the Book of Job: "in the land of Uz," Edomite friends, deliberate avoidance of the name Yhwh, etc.).

What legendary character is this? How do you know that this "character" is older? I personally do not know how old the character of Job is. He could be 10,000 years old for all I know. I am just saying that I don't know.

Job belonged to the races of the East which means he was an Edomite or more likely an Aramean. It is not certain when he lived or if he is real at all and scholars place him at any time between Abraham and Moses, most likely he was a real person but the story itself seems to be a myth with a historic kernel that developed over time and it also has a parabolic nature ie faithfulness under testing conditins is likely rewarded.

Esau the brother of Jacob is the forefather of the Edomites right? So maybe Job lived during the time of Israel's slave captivity in Egypt?

I personally can't see how God would expect humans to love him if he makes them suffer as in the case of Job, that is obviously a masochistic mythical element.

Do the modern day Jews believe the book of Job is credible? If so, for how long? Is there any mentioning of the book of Job in the rest of the bible? Did any the apostles qouate from it? God allowed the Isrealites to suffer slavery in Egypt and allow his son to be nailed to stake or cross. So it is still hard for me to question the authenticy of the book of Job. There are examples through out the scriptures of God allowing his servants to suffer. I am not saying that you are wrong, but God did allow for John the Baptise to be thrown in prison and then have his head cut off. So I can't say for sure if God would have allow Satan to do all those horrible things to Job or not.

If you treat your dog nicely it will love you and stay with you if you beat it and ill treat it will run away from you, and who can blame it?

I agree with this statement, but God sees and thinks differently then we do.