Sorry moggy
The question could read "Are the 144,000 considered to be gods in watchtower theology?"
are the 144,000 elohim (gods) in wt theology?
Sorry moggy
The question could read "Are the 144,000 considered to be gods in watchtower theology?"
are the 144,000 elohim (gods) in wt theology?
Are the 144,000 elohim (Gods) in WT theology?
i'm trying to figure out how long that i will be obsessed with this board.
i could spend 24/7 on here.
i think that's why i don't clean up the house as much.
Well we all have so much in common. We used to have a JW congregation, now we have an exJW congregatioin. No elders. We can say what we think when we want to. Even though we might not agree with each other we can still have a laugh.
I do notice a distinct tendency to get into the lighter sexual side rather than real serious political issues. I suppose that's due to years of suppression.
Dan
excerpt from: http://www.whale.to/b/sp/russell.html.
"the wt society performs a secret ritual every year which is their primary ritual.
this ritual is actually the ancient gnostic (satanic) ritual of saying no to the body of christ.
This eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Jesus is all loopy. I had wine last night and bread today, but I don't imagine it to be Jesus Christ.
What is really loopy is the High Priests drinking the wine and eating the bread and us all thinking that it carries some significance beyond our collective imaginations. It does not.
excerpt from: http://www.whale.to/b/sp/russell.html.
"the wt society performs a secret ritual every year which is their primary ritual.
this ritual is actually the ancient gnostic (satanic) ritual of saying no to the body of christ.
And Jehovah is their demon - even if only a figment of the collective imagination
The concept that we all die and rot while the anointed 144,000 go straight to Heaven to rule as demigods, is to me quite idolatorous. It's actually polytheist.
you can thank the watchtower society for this.. here is an email from my hosting company:.
unfortunately it appears your site/account was involved in violation of using copyrighted material involved with watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.".
as a result of this abuse and activity, we will be unable to reinstate this account for any reason.. in addition, due to the nature of this abuse and the risk of transferring sensitive or illegal content if we were to provide you your files, we will be unable to provide with backups.. it is unfortunate that this has occurred, and we are aware that more than likely this was not your intent to host, however the fact remains it did exist and complaints were made.
try looking for your files on the wayback machine
http://www.moledet.org.il/english/moledet.html .
http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/hamas.htm.
http://umkahlil.blogspot.com/2006/01/aya-al-astal-and-mounadel-forgotten-on.html.
This is the charter of Israeli coalition party Moledet, which calls for the 'ethnic cleansing' of Palestinians from the West Bank. Moledet is a coalition party in the Israeli government. It continues with the policies of it's founder Rechavan Ze'evi, whom they call 'Gandhi', and who vehemently called for the 'ethnic cleansing' of Palestinians, and was killed allegedly by Sa'adat of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, whom the Israeli army yesterday captured in a raid, killing a Palestinian policeman and another Palestinian prisoner.
Note, 'ethnic cleansing' is a Crime Against Humanity under the International Criminal Code; Slobodan Milosevic was recently charged with ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo.
Is the Moledet charter any less radical and undamentalist than the Hamas charter?
http://www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/hamas.htm
Zionist fundamentalist bigots chant "death to the Arabs" and Muslim fundamentalist bigots chant "death to the Jews".
Ask yourself how many Palestinians would have to be killed to encourage this ethnic cleansing to take place and the answer would be a repeat of the massacres of 1948 such as Deir Yassin where up to 100 Palestinian children, women, and men were executed by the Stern gang to encourage the Palestinians to become refugees as they are today.
While we in the west regularly hear about Palestinian rocket attacks into Israeli settlements and also into Israel proper, we don't hear about the routine shooting of Palestinian children - both Muslim and Christian, by Israeli snipers;
http://umkahlil.blogspot.com/2006/01/aya-al-astal-and-mounadel-forgotten-on.html
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article3560.shtml
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article3578.shtml
Charles Taze Russell preached zionism, the return of physical Israel to Palestine. Could this zionist movement have inadvertantly contributed to the nazi program to 'ethnically cleanse' Europe?
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http://www.bloggernews.net/2006/03/australian-cartoon.html
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If they know anything of hte Watchtower's zionist beginnings, that the witnesses spent their first "last days" whipping up physical Israel to go to Palestine, they wouldn't want anything to do with the Jehovah's Witnesses. I think it's fraudulent on the part of the WTBTS that they don't tell this to Muslim people when they proselytise and try to convert them to the WTBTS.
Anyway why would they give up Allah for Jehovah and his 144,000 virgin wives (apparently the wives are both male and female)?
i would like to write an article outlining some of the goofy stories that jws believe.
for example, when i was young, this story went around: .
a couple decided that they would miss the meeting to go to see a hypnotist.
There is the story of the sister who was out in service and called on a man. After she left the door, she was approached by two police officers who said that the man had just killed the last two people who had come to his door. When they arrested him, they asked him why they didn't kill the JW woman. He said that he wouldn't touch her because of the two big guys with her. She was alone.
I was told that one when I was studying!
I heard this too. Why is there no evidence of it actually happening, i.e. times, dates, names, who was killed etcetera.