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  WT Society Feels they are Above the Laws of the Land - Even in their own....

  by flipper in

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  ...... words.

  knowing that the candace conti child abuse case was probably coming down the turnpike as was the 5 out of court child abuse settlements the wt society settled in san diego, california - this past april as most of you know the wt society sent a secret letter instructing all elders to essentially keep their " pie-holes " shut ( mouths for those not hip to modern lingo ) and essentially instructed them to not divulge anything to any authorities investigating crimes or other information concerning wt organization operations.. someone posted a thread on this in april, however - with all the news coming out about wt child abuse coverups, the anonymous organization investigating the wt society , i felt it important to reveal some snippets of what the wt society instructed their elders regarding legal issues.

  in one section it states, " when someone seeks confidential information : you should never reveal confidential information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you to do so.

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  Hey Flipper:

  I agree the WT is reprehensible. But I would not let ANY law enforcement officer search my property without a search warrant(unless they barge in claiming probable cause but that’s for the lawyer to argue later, and possibly filing a civil lawsuit). You are within your rights to prevent unreasonable search and seizure. I would advise ANYONE not to allow a search of one’s property without a search warrant, so that part I have no problem with. I was just saying that this part should be standard practice. And even under a criminal investigation you shouldn’t say ANYTHING to anyone without a lawyer. Watch this video to get a law professor’s take on why you should NEVER speak to the police.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
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  WT Society Feels they are Above the Laws of the Land - Even in their own....

  by flipper in

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  ...... words.

  knowing that the candace conti child abuse case was probably coming down the turnpike as was the 5 out of court child abuse settlements the wt society settled in san diego, california - this past april as most of you know the wt society sent a secret letter instructing all elders to essentially keep their " pie-holes " shut ( mouths for those not hip to modern lingo ) and essentially instructed them to not divulge anything to any authorities investigating crimes or other information concerning wt organization operations.. someone posted a thread on this in april, however - with all the news coming out about wt child abuse coverups, the anonymous organization investigating the wt society , i felt it important to reveal some snippets of what the wt society instructed their elders regarding legal issues.

  in one section it states, " when someone seeks confidential information : you should never reveal confidential information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you to do so.

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  To be fair...

  They are correct that often authorities will ask for information they AREN'T entitled to and some people or organisations will comply. Even if they aren't LEGALLY required to do so. So as far as not handling over confidential information they are correct that the branch and legal should be consulted first.

  I've seen police officers show up and say to someone "you HAVE to do this or we do THIS". Sometimes it's just empty threats and posturing hoping that someone will comply. However often when someone says, hey, NO I don't have to do this they back down. Unless there is a warrant, it's probably an empty threat or a fishing expedition.
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  Oh those Thor-worshippers and their hammers . . . .

  by cedars in

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  as i've said many times on this forum, the fictional character of thor is a dangerous and violent person who clearly does not know how to handle a hammer safely or responsibly.. to set the record straight, here is an instructional video on how to use a hammer safely.. i feel it's important to spread this information in order to raise awareness that hammers are intended as tools for making things, and not as weapons with which to bludgeon your foes to death.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ogimmz8uw.

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  Cedars, you have a PM too.
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  Oh those Thor-worshippers and their hammers . . . .

  by cedars in

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  as i've said many times on this forum, the fictional character of thor is a dangerous and violent person who clearly does not know how to handle a hammer safely or responsibly.. to set the record straight, here is an instructional video on how to use a hammer safely.. i feel it's important to spread this information in order to raise awareness that hammers are intended as tools for making things, and not as weapons with which to bludgeon your foes to death.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ogimmz8uw.

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  lol bored much?
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  The Field Service will end someday, maybe?

  by Quarterback in

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  last month i heard a talk from a c.o.

  he mentioned that the door to door service will come to an end.

  he said that jehovah will tell us to stop it, eventually.

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  Either no longer lucrative or too prohibitively exspensive because of potential lawsuits.
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  Elder's School 2012…any news?

  by Londo111 in

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  i have heard rumblings that this has started up in some places.

  i know there are some awakened elders on here who often provide good intel.

  in light of all the juicy things that have happened in the last year, especially the conti case, i think many of us here are pining to hear any bit of news, so it would be much appreciated!.

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  Lets hope they tighten the noose so hard that elders resign en mass.
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  Muslim Stores in Dearborn enforce new dress code!

  by Diest in

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  fury at muslim biz dress codes.

  by gary buiso and kate briquelet.

  last updated:1:10 pm, july 22, 2012. posted:12:57 am, july 22, 2012. j.c. ricepain in the neckline:hana dagostin (left) and ivana saftic balk at a dress code posted for a pharmacy on lee avenue in dearborn, michigan.

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  Can't stand fundamentalism in ANY form.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses tell me to shut up!.. (2012 Assembly)

  by Snoozy in

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  found this on you tube..i couldn't believe everyone just walked past her without talking to her..(except to tell her to shut up!

  ) i don't know what the sign said but there was also a guy singing hymns there..they just walked by and ignored him also.

  unbelievable..where's the love for their fellow mankind?.

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  LOL love that irondork! "Snorting lines of cult" Excellent.
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  My Local Congregation are Idiots

  by simon17 in

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  had my semi-annual jw visit and it was the local congregation giving the invitations to the upcoming dc.

  the presentation was the standard 3 second "all the information is inside--goodbye" wastes which this work has become.. .

  just one problem.... the congregation i guess didn't realize that they had to put on the time, date and address themselves!!!!

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  Maybe they let the individual pubs put the labels on themselves? And thus the fukup?
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  My Local Congregation are Idiots

  by simon17 in

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  had my semi-annual jw visit and it was the local congregation giving the invitations to the upcoming dc.

  the presentation was the standard 3 second "all the information is inside--goodbye" wastes which this work has become.. .

  just one problem.... the congregation i guess didn't realize that they had to put on the time, date and address themselves!!!!

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  ROFL!!!