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  Watchtower Camaraderie

  by The wanderer in

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  watchtower camaraderie

  after having spent years as one of jehovah's witnesses.

  the next day?going back to the organization .

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  thecarpenter

  There are a lot of things you can do to fight the loneliness

  1- fade out of the organization slowly while you build up your friend base

  2- see if you can exit the org. with a friend who is also sick of the org.

  3- go back to school - you will meet many people your age especially if you take weekend or evening classes. (for those over 25)

  4- attend another church (hopefully non-denominational that isn't controlling)

  5- volunteer you time to community projects

  6- join a club (softball, dance, bridge, YMCA, etc...); find groups in your community using the internet.

  7- make friends with your co-workers and do things with them.

  8- get in touch with your non-witness relatives

  9- get to know your neighbors

  10- try and meet up with some on this board from your area

  11- get a pet

  12- If you are single, check out the personals and dating services

  13- start a hobby

  Remember, loneliness is a state of mind, not a life sentence. check out this site http://net-burst.net/singles/lonely.htm
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  A Bad experience with JW is a permit for SIN?

  by El Mariachi in

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  i've been reading some sad experinces here... i dont see anyone talking about the bible... only how misserables the organization made their lives... ok ...so because of that...now i have permission to smoke marijuana and commit fornication?

  this sounds pretty much like aa... and everybody having his/her personal "superior power" who is giving them the permit to do whatever they want...

  i've been df for 4 years now and also dont agree with some jw teachings... why instead of blaming the wt for everything dont we look for the real truth in the bible and make things right.

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  thecarpenter

  ths is too funny, relax
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  Did anyone meet brother Ted Jaracz, what's he like?

  by jason bourne in

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  thecarpenter

  I know a bethel who has dealings with Jaracz and he mentioned that same thing about Jaracz's coldness. He said that there was a complete difference when you walked into dan sydlik's office (when he was alive of course)
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  Depression

  by Honesty in

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  how widespread is it among jehovah's witnesses and how do they cope with it?

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  thecarpenter

  They stuff themselves with Prozac and food, while blaming worldly people for all of their sorrows.

  I have to disagree Arthur, I blamed it first on myself and then when I realized it wasn't me, I blamed it firmly on the society's shoulders with all it's bullsh*t. This was while I was still a witness and this was major factor in helping me to leave.
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  How to leave Jehovah's Witnesses (fairly) painlessly...

  by DubBeachBabe in

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  posted this as a response on another thread, but i know there are people who want this as a new discussion.

  i'm sure there are many good people watching these discussions who know you want to leave, but also know that this is what may await you - family alienation and pain.

  if you haven't already overtly left, my advice to you is this: don't succumb to the disfellowshipping process.

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  thecarpenter

  hey, don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
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  September 2006 Kingdom Ministry! MAJOR issue!

  by under_believer in

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  the september, 2006 km is one of the most special and significant publications the society has released in a long, long time.

  well i'll tell you.. exhibit a: on page 1, the official announcement about the bethel layoffs.

  hint: it's all blamed on "improved technology.".

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  thecarpenter

  Does anyone have a scan of the sept 2006 km?
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  Is It Possible For The Jehovah's Witness Organization to Disbandon?

  by perthwogboy in

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  is it possible for the jehovah's witness organization to disbandon?

  as an ex jw, i can only live in hope!

  what are your thought's and opinions on this matter?

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  thecarpenter

  
  I agree with Arthur, I don't think the watchtower will disappear but I do
  think they will become more marginalized.. Look for example what happened
  to the society in the late 1920's. After significant blunders and
  struggles, about 75% of the organization left. What remained was, to use
  arthurs words, the 'deeply indoctrinated zealots'. Although they were
  smaller in number, they were committed to the organization.
  

  However, with the rise of the internet, I can't help but think that the face
  of the watchtower will change, it will become even more marginalized than it
  already is. The society knows that they are losing the younger more
  technology savvy generation to the world, in fact virtually all the growth the
  organization has been experiencing as of late has been poorer countries lacking
  significant internet access. We are certainly seeing a erosion taking place that
  is seriously affecting their numbers and donations. Frankly, I do kind of
  wonder if the organization will experience a complete review of the doctrines
  similar to what happened to the worldwide church of god in the mid 1990's.
  Rutherford had done this in the late 1920's to show people that the organization
  had changed. It was really just a show but it worked to invigorate the
  organization and give the appearance that things had really changed.
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  Could the JW's be in "survival mode"?

  by JH in

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  i notice that they don't preach much door to door anymore.

  i'm not the only one who notices this around here.. i was just wondering if they reached a point where they can't bring anyone to the org.

  anymore, so all that counts for them is to keep going to their meetings and wait for armageddon.

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  thecarpenter

  In my old congregation, I heard that there has been a significant decline in the attendance. People have said repeatedly that the congregation is not very loving. This shows itself in many different ways including the field service. I still notice witnesses in the ministry but I don't really notice the same zeal anymore.
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  Planting seeds of doubt or helping someone break mind control

  by thecarpenter in

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  helping someone break mind control.

  how can you effectively help a witness break the watchtowers grip on their minds?

  as a layman, i would think that encouraging someone to examine the history of their beliefs would be one way but many people don't like to do research.

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  thecarpenter

  helping someone break mind control

  How can you effectively help a witness break the watchtowers grip on their minds?

  As a layman, I would think that encouraging someone to examine the history of their beliefs would be one way but many people don't like to do research. (Note: this method probably worked for many on this forum) I noticed that with many women (I'm only generalizing here on a observation so please don't stone me), they seem to notice the lack of love first. I guess highlighting that fact can probably lead them to examine the religion more.

  What methods would you use to help someone out or at least motivate them to scrutinize the society more? and when would you back off?
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  Keith Reddin's "Brutality of Fact" playing in NYC on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Dogpatch in

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  want to go see a play on jws and shunning in new york city?

  support jeffrey and his work, and you can even go for free!.

  randy.

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  thecarpenter

  bttt