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  Circuit Overseer online. Welcome to my pages

  by Carlo in

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  hi brothers and sisters.

  i am a jw circuit overseer.

  you are welcome to visit my pages.. http://www.angelfire.dom/ky/proclaimer.

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  Dawn

  Hi Carlo:

  I found your site a while back - the correspondence column was a hoot - I laughed so hard at those!!! You are hillarious.

  I forwarded it to a JW relative with the innocent question "Is this really a JW site? I'm researching some questions I have" (yea - I couldn't resist)I

  t caused quite an uproar. They forwarded it to an elder who then contacted me and encouraged me to ask the local elders my questions and not look to any information on the internet. Not one of them saw the humor....go figure.
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  JW BLOWS WHISTLE!

  by bay64me in

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  thought i'd share some of my experiences with you all!.

  sister x, was somewhat of an enigma in the congregation, certainly a 'one-off'!

  allegedly she suffered from an 'illness' that incapacitated her at strangely convenient times!

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  Dawn

  I know I was just talking to sister the other day that said she knew some that would put in pioneer hours but was on social assistance.

  This is a phenomenon not particular just to JW's - I see it all the time in my line of work.

  However - it will be interesting to see what happens near the end of this year. The Welfare Reform Act was passed during Clinton's term, limiting public assistance recipients to 5 years of collection. That 5 years is cumulative over a life-span, which means they can't go off, then back on for another 5 years.

  In August the first bach of 5 year recipients will have reached their term. I have worried about what will happen to the children in 2-3 generation welfare families - but I never thought about how this might impact the JW pioneers.

  Seems that 2002 is not a good year for the dubs!! They might have to cut back those pioneer required hours - maybe as low as say....15 minutes
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  Thank you for the support

  by Erica in

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  i can't find the words that would express how grateful i am for all the support, not only for all of you to back me on the dateline show but for my trial as well.

  i don't think i would have had the courage to go through the trauma if it wasn't for all your prayers and encouragement.

  dateline was a huge help for many and i know this because i have recieved quite a few calls, one from a current jdub who wants out for the safety of his 16 month old baby, i was so excited that he lifted the veil and saw it for the pure truth that it was.

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  Dawn

  Erica:

  Welcome to the forum!!

  My mother (an active JW for 40+ years) watched Dateline - I asked her about her thoughts afterwards - she said she hopes you win your lawsuit, she was appalled at how you were treated! I thought you might like to know that not all JW's will mindlessly side with the society.

  As for the cross - I have two comments on that subject:

  (1) Anyone who makes an issue of you wearing a cross is simply trying to avoid the real issue - that is - how your case was handled by the society. It doesn't matter if you appeared with your hair dyed purple and a bone sticking out of your nose - the issue is how your case was handled, and what will be done in future molestation cases - plain and simple!!

  (2) I, personally, was really happy to see you wearing it. It shows that you can separate the "society" from the REAL truth - Jesus.
  

  Luk 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.

  You definately showed support for Jesus by wearing your cross and you should be proud and comforted by this scripture!!

  Keep up the good fight! We are so very proud of you!

  I was molested when I was 4 and never had the courage to tell anyone - even when I was older. I admire you for standing up for what is right and in protection of other children!!
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  NEW EXJW ON THE BLOCK

  by buffy in

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  you can read my bio to find out a little about me.

  basically, i need support.

  even after two years, i still think.

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  Dawn

  Hi Buffy:

  I also have fought many of the same fears that you have - worrying that you have made the wrong decision for your children.

  A friend of mine recently relieved me of those fears by reminding me that NO ONE is big enough to screw up God's plan. So when you are worried that you have made the wrong choice - just pray to him and BELIEVE that he will see you and your children through - you can't mess him up!!!

  I'm glad to have you on board and I'll look for your posts - sounds like we have a lot in common. Please feel free to e-mail me if you need to anytime.
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  Thanks for the support, a farewell

  by mikepence in

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  i had resolved in my mind to leave the world of witnesses and former witnesses behind.

  then september 11th happened, and this community was a wonderful support.

  then the un fiasco happened, and i was amused.

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  Dawn

  Good luck Mike and I wish you the best.
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  Eastern Evacuation

  by Carmel in

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  contrary to what the public is being told about "possible" evacuation of american citizens from india and pakistan, my son who lives in new delhi has been contacted by the us consulate and requested to be out of the country within two weeks.

  he'll be heading to the us shortly followed by his indian wife a few weeks later.

  seems yk will have grist for his prophecy mill.. carmel

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  Dawn

  oh.....I thought the king of the North was Russia........ooopps.....forgot - that was taught a long long time ago at book study - guess I missed the new light flash.
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  Why Be AlanF So Narcissistic

  by non_trias_theos in

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  alanf seem to suffer from ego centricity disorder.

  people in thisn place have patted him on back too much it went to his head.

  he think that cause he can shuffle a few figures and write terrible papers on evolution book that he ok. he needs humble self and quit taking praise from people.

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  Dawn

  non also humble

  . I believe a truly humble person would not tell everyone how humble they are.

  me thinks NON just like argue........

  How'd I do guys - did I get the grammer right?

  Seriously NON - if you're here to defend the JW faith you're doing a really poor job. Why don't you be quiet for a while and read some of YOU KNOW's postings. While I don't agree with a lot of what he says - at least he's can post an intelligent and well thought out position/defense of his faith.

  If I was going to be "swayed" by someone to return to the JW's it certainly wouldn't be by your silly a** posts!!
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  Advice needed- please help!

  by detective in

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  yesterday i received a surprise phone call from my jw friend.

  we met up and uhhh, it was quite the mind-blowing event.

  i can't believe it.

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  Dawn

  He still thinks they are right but that he's just not happy being a witness. He said he wasn't happy for years and he didn't enjoy going to meetings. He's obviously carrying around the guilt and self-loathing that years of indoctrination can produce in a person.

  Since he still believes it's the "truth" take care not to attack the organization - this may put him on the defensive. Instead, point him to the bible. A JW won't have the same gut reaction to be defensive if encouraged simply to read the bible.

  A good place to start is to encourage him to read the book of John - completely, start to finish. Then you can start to point out the clear message in there - that JESUS is the only way. There is no mention at all about a group, organization, church, etc - only JESUS.

  There's a couple of really good things you can point out to him in John:

  (1) Jesus is the way. Over and over again he says that one must believe in HIM. So what does it mean to BELIEVE in HIM? Does that equate BELIEVING and FOLLOWING a church - or does the church have a different role to fill - such as being a place of encouragement & worship.
  (2) John 14:8,9 - what did Jesus mean by his answer? Could it be a hint of his divinity?
  

  Philip said, "Lord show us the Father and that will be enough for us." Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father... Joh 14:8,9

  (3) John 12:42-43 - can he see this happening in the Organization?
  

  "Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue; for they loved praise from men more than praise from God" John 12:42-43

  That's the first step for a JW is to realize that the organization should not replace JESUS.

  I would also encourage you to read "Reasoning from the Scriptures with Jehovah's Witnesses" - it's a good book that takes the scriputres JW's use to support their doctrines and explains how they have been taken out of context. It also includes additional scriptures that prove what the real truth is. You can then point him to his bible on those topics.

  This way you're always only looking at the bible, no "apostate" literature that he may not be comfortable with yet.

  If there's any chance at all that he'll read Crisis of Conscience at some point that is an excellent book!!

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  Thanks to all on this board!

  by writerpen in

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  i joined this group in february, however had been surfing the various websites that expose the witnesses' lies since being disfellowshipped last august.

  the support from those sites and this board have been invaluable.

  today, i no longer have the fear of having left the organization.

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  Dawn

  Well - I couldn't find a good "spiritual" brother either. So I found a "wordly" man - slept with him - got kicked out - married him.

  A bit of a bumpy ride but all in all I guess we killed 2 birds with one stone: husband + freedom

  Prisca & writerpen great job!! Congratulations on pursuing your college degrees. And remember - there's a whole world of possibilities open to you now!! (not to mention lots of cute single guys)
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  My uncle sent me this article....

  by crownboy in

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  well, as i've mentioned before, even though i am an ex-jw at heart, i am still forced to go to meetings and occasionally in field service due to my circumstances (live at home with parents).

  my time out in field service is pretty low, as i only spend like an hour a month out just to keep my family off my back, and that hour is usually one hour of rv with some poineers, so i can't remember the last time i actually really went out, or spoke to anyone at the door .

  i guess out of "spiritual" concern, by uncle sent me the following article a couple of weeks ago:.

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  Dawn

  Oh I am soooooo glad to be free of that burden!!

  And for cryin' out loud - they're now discouraging you from even visiting too much in service? Don't stand around together and talk - hurry hurry hurry get out there and work work work.

  Next thing they'll have the "masters" out there with their whips keeping the "slaves" in order!!