There IS strength in numbers. I would say that if you are planning on leaving, and you know of others who are too. Do it together! It will make others THINK!
Johnny
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Flying under radar
by Alligator Wisdom infor those who are still "active" yet don't profess that the wts is god's organization, how do you do it?
do you expect to be in much longer?
will you stay in?
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HEY KIDZ! BE THE FIRST ON YOUR BLOCK!
by Mistah MOJO into have no life.. to wish you were dead.. to see demons everywhere.. to wake up screaming in the dead of night.. .
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Johnny
Quite interesting, but there's a lot of truth to this.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are not a CULT ...
by Fatfreek inaccording to 30% of the following definitions.
that leaves 70% that show quite the opposite.
so -- are they a cult?
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Johnny
...and the Pope is not Catholic.
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Continually pounding the "Deliverance at Hand" drum...
by bennyk inbrothers!!!
surely we rejoice to know that "deliverance is at hand"!!!
how grateful we are that the faithful and discreet slave has given us such timely warning!!!
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Johnny
Hopefully it means Deliverence from the bondage of the WT.
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Disassociate Ones Are Apostates.Watchtower Quote
by ThomasCovenant indidn't realize the actual link before.
watchtower '85 15th july page 31 questions from readers.
aid to bible understanding shows that the word apostasy comes from a greek word that literally means a standing away from but has the sense of desertion, abandonment or rebellion.
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Johnny
This is typical WT clever twisting tactics.
What they state is true, "A person who had willfully and formally disassociated himself from the congregation would have matched that description. By deliberately repudiating God’s congregation and by renouncing the Christian way, he would have made himself an apostate."
What they IMPLY (but don't directly say) is NOT true, "If one leaves the WT he/she is apostacizing."
Because "God’s congregation" or the "Christian congregation" means the "Church" NOT any man-made religious organization. And the vast majority of "Witnesses" do NOT claim to be part of the Church (Body of Christ, "anointed") anyway!! In other words, if a Christian (one who has accepted Christ, to be amember of his Body) were to then REJECT CHRIST (NOT an organization), that one would be apostocizing from Christ. This does not apply to one leaving this organization. Period!
The is where the NWT is a very useful tool for the Society, in the way it transaltes certain words and phrases. Though not technically wrong certain words and phrases can now be misinterpreted to imply different things that what they wree intended.
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Johnny
Good question.
If I understand correctly, the Sabbath, in its typical form, never applied to Christians. However it prefigured, what might be referred to as the antitypical Sabbath, which is the day of rest of the Lord. Whcih we are all in right now.
Peace!
Johnny
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The CO says --
by stillajwexelder inthe co has said in his latest talks "some have lost their sense of urgency and the organization is worried about it" .
even in the apostles day there was a a sense of urgency
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Johnny
"the Organization is worried about it" Excellent news!
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So how were Adam and Eve different from us?
by upside/down in.
da bible says that they could'nt eat from the tree of knowledge of good and bad.... so did they not know "good from bad"?
and if that's the case... there is no "sin"...as without knowledge there is no wrongdoing (so says paul).. wacky xtians and their wacky deities.... u/d.
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Johnny
In the sense of a resurrection, they were not.
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." 1Cor 15:22
"But we see Jesus, ... by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY MAN." Heb 2:9 ("EVERY" includes Adam)
Adam and Eve will receive a resurrection.
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Question on DF'ing
by littlerockguy inif disfellowshipping is a biblical practice, why didn't jesus do it?
there is no record of him doing it or even mentioning doing anything remotely like that.
in fact, it would seem to me if that practice was set in stone back then during his time, wouldn't he have taken some similar action against judas?
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Johnny
Hi Littlerockguy,
This is my personal perspective on the issue, and I know others may disagree.
Let's say I start off by assuming that the apostles were directed by Holy Spirit to instruct and write what they did. In the scriptures used to support the practice of DFing (WT) the persons in question are those who are of the Body of Christ (WT "anointed"), period. Since the vast majority of "Witnesses" do NOT claim to be of this class, it's a moot point. The scriptures DO NOT apply to THEM (by their own ideas)!
Few people ever bring up this point but I believe that it is a crucial one. If there was a law on the books which applied to all people over 7-feet tall and some group was applying it to all people, how could it be enforced??
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Rutherford was a drunk and an adulterer?
by Surreptitious ini've heard this mentioned here and there.
can it be proven?
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Johnny
I see where you're coming from. The only problem is, with regards to this issue, what sort of authentication would exist, aside from what people saw and said, and some circumstantial evidence? Probably very little.
I know people who knew him personnaly, and whom I trust, who have confirmed these allegations. But I couldn't ask you to believe me.
I believe, as in other things, each one has to use common sense and do some research on there own to feel convinced that these things are so.