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  We are going back to the Kingdom Hall.....

  by Escargot in

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  well, after one year of dissociating ourselves, my wife an i are going back to the kingdom hall!

  no, we dont want back in.

  a very dear friend has passed away (she happened to be the wife of our po).

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  I have delivered a couple of funeral talks, and Escargot is right: the outline does mention that the deceased is not to be eulogized, but rather, most of the talk should be used to share the 'hope' that is presented in the Bible. Needless to say, such unfeeling funerals have disturbed at least some of the people who have been present at them over the years.

  However, I will say one thing positive about Witness officiating at funerals (and weddings as well)...they do not charge money for them. When an in-law of mine did suddenly and tragically, the church official stipulated that $75 was to be paid for performing the service. In my opinion, that charge should have been waived. It's tough enough having to foot the bill for a funeral, but then the grieving are asked to pay up for a church service. That sucks.
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  JW's and Chronic Fatigue Syndrone!

  by cornish in

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  chronic fatigue syndrone, m e, yuppie flu.

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  i dont know if anyone else has noticed the alarming number of jws who claim to suffer from chronic fatigue syndrone,i mean hear in cornwall there tend to be several sufferers in every congregation,outside the jws out of the many people i know i dont know anyone,although there are obviosly many outside the jws who suffer this illness,percentage wise it seems that jws have a much,much larger occorance of the illness.. for example my brother in law has not worked and been living on invalidity benefits for more than 10 years since his mid twenties,his brother is also in the same boat, an m.e sufferer.. i wonder if anyone has looked into this a bit more?

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  I certainly do not want to say that some people are faking illness, but I too know of several Witnesses with Chronic Fatigue or Fibromyalgia. Perhaps, by being ill, there is an 'excuse' of sorts that they now have from the demands and rigors of holding to the routine expected of Witnesses. If this is indeed the case, I absolutely cannot blame them. It may be better to be 'ill' than have a congregation of people judging you as 'spiritually weak' because you miss some meetings and/or field service.
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  What is the purpose of this board?

  by abcde in

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  i just found this board.

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  DB

  abc, it's easy as 1-2-3....the vast majority of posts here are negative toward the Witnesses.
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  Who is Robert Johnson and his WTS/UN Connection

  by hawkaw in

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  2. scandals

  someone very nice (alan f) passed this on to me late friday and i did not have the opportunity to pass it on to you.. if any of you guys have been following my un thread (which is now very tough to find thanks to the changes in the board) you may have noticed the 1994 un directory.

  it provided three names on page 261 that were linked with the wts's name.

  one person was w. l. barry (at the time he was the vice president).

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  Robert Johnson is referred to by name in the song "The Wasteland" which is on Elton John's latest CD entitled "Songs From The West Coast". Now, thanks to NeoMadman (Across The Water?) I know who Robert Johnson is.
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  For Any JW Who Doubts The WT/ UN Connection

  by Ranchette in

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  2. scandals

  we've all seen the scathing things wt has printed about the un over the years but in the last few yrs there has been a change in tone when they speak of the un at times.below i provide an example of this courtesy of dec 8,2000awake.. i made some quotes bold print.as you read notice the complimentary tone and the spots where un photos appear.those were probably obtained as a perk with their membership.. ask your self,is this any way to speak of the scarlet colored wild beast?

  part of saten's org?if you can look at the magazine.it looks like a propaganda piece.. the problems of children.

  the solution at last .

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  LDH, your reply to this post is exactly what I was going to say.
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  NEWS: I am publicly reproved over UN situation.

  by badwillie in

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  my wife and i met with 3 elders for a "judicial hearing".. our crime: simply put, was talking.

  i showed a friend the un website where the wts was listed as an ngo which then led to a 2 hour discussion of various doubts that we both have had.

  my wife also showed a friend the un thing but also discussed with her a first hand account of a pedophile cover-up that we knew about in our former congregation.

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  Seems like an obvious attempt to crush dissent by cutting off those who have legit questions and concerns; once again, the jw org exhibits cult-like behavior.
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  Lets Flip The Script

  by worf in

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  the latest news about the wt, un, ngo situation indicates that the wt is being forced to disassociate themselves from this status..

  good!!!!

  they are getting what they deserve!!!!.

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  Worf, son of Moge (or is it spelled Moog), Klingon warrior that you are, making another successful raid on the Borg. Now you will sing songs extolling the glory of the Klingon empire, while you drink blood wine and eat gak with your fellow warriors!

  BTW, the new Enterprise series is only so-so thus far, with the exception of the Vulcan mega-babe.
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  question on the UN thing

  by DB in

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  2. scandals

  i have not been reading posts lately.

  can anyone give me a brief summary of the "scandal" involving the un and the wtbs?

  thanks!

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  Thanks for the replies! This does sound big, and I'll have to check out the original thread. Thanks!
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  question on the UN thing

  by DB in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have not been reading posts lately.

  can anyone give me a brief summary of the "scandal" involving the un and the wtbs?

  thanks!

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  I have not been reading posts lately. Can anyone give me a brief summary of the "scandal" involving the UN and the WTBS? Thanks!
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  WTS predicts its own demise in 11/15 Watchtower

  by Stealth in

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  the second study article of the november 15, 2001 watchtower is entitled jehovah is our refuge.

  on page 19 under the subheading.

  no calamity will befall us in paragraph 14 the following is stated:.

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  DB

  I read the Hypocrisy article also. I was amazed at how we are admonished to reject Christendom because of hypocrisy (we tell people to examine their religions and get out), and yet we are here being asked to tolerate it when it is apparent in the JW org. And yes, it is readily apparent, as the Society is here admtting, that there is indeed hypocrisy in their organization.