I'll reveal why I asked the question: today at work, a Catholic guy who works in my office and I had a discussion about the abuse thing. I asked if his priest mentioned it at all in his church and he said no.
He added that it seems that the thinking there is to ride it out and hope that the Church inproves over the long run.
Being a jw, one might think my first instinct would be to reason with him as to why he should consider leaving, but instead I had no such desire; it seems as though he is content with his faith. It's the religion of his family, and his grand mother does not seem overly disturbed by the scandal either.
Normally, a jw would be like a shark in the water at a situation like this, ready to give a thorough witness. But, the situation in the jw organization with regard to pedophiles makes it hard for me to recommend it as a solid alternative to Catholicism.
Also, since the guy seemed relatively undisturbed by the whole thing, I figured why push it? If a person is okay with their faith, I for one have always been hesitant to try to convince them that what they believe is wrong. I am the type that does not enjoy confrontation, so perhaps that factors in too.
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by DB inin the light of the recent news about child abuse scandals within the catholic church, would you encourage a catholic to leave his/her religion?.
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thanks!
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The Watchtower's 'Lost Generation'
by metatron ini visited some relatives in my extended family and found exactly.
the same situation as elsewhere in witness congregations.. the next generation of witnesses isn't there.. a friend of mine, who still goes to some meetings, made the.
same observation independently.
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Met, I have noticed that the next genertaion of ministerial servants, elders, and possibly even pioneers may not be there. It seems that fewer and fewer brothers (at least in my area anyway) are reaching out for privilages. In my previous congregation, we went years without any high school grads taking up the pioneer work, and that includes for the most part auxilliary pioneering too.
And yes, I also have noted that many young ones formerly regular at meetings now attend infrequently, and in all likelihood many do lead double lives.
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Should Catholics leave their religion?
by DB inin the light of the recent news about child abuse scandals within the catholic church, would you encourage a catholic to leave his/her religion?.
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In the light of the recent news about child abuse scandals within the Catholic Church, would you encourage a Catholic to leave his/her religion?
Thanks!
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New To The Board
by MarchOn ini should clarify, i am new at posting, not new to the board.. i've been checking in for a short time now.
"spying", "lurking", whatever you would like to call it.
but i thought it was time to come out of the "first closet" i've been in for more than 20 years.
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Welcome MarchOn, I hope you find this site as interesting and fun as I have.
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The most boring book in the Bible.
by sleepy inwhat did you find the most boring book to read in the bible?.
its a hard choice as there's so many to choose from but i have to go with psalms.flipping nora it take for ever to read, is written in some incomprehensible way, and is about nothing!
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There are certain sections of the bible that I find boring, or at least difficult to read without getting sleepy: The first 9 chapters of 1 Chronicles, the latter part of Leviticus (priests determining cleanness of lepers, etc), the last few chapters of Ezekiel ( the temple vision), the last few chapters of Exodus (the tabernacle specs and construction).
Far be it from me to criticize the bible, but I really do wish that the creation account of Genesis would be longer and more detailed. I have a few unanswered questions about that period in earth's history. :):)
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Wife makes a funny
by DB inon the way to dropping my wife off at work this morning, we stopped at an intersection near a funeral home which is constructed very similarly to many kingdom halls.
the following conversation took place:.
me: "that funeral home always reminds me of a kingdom hall.".
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Thanks terafera, Prisca, and gang...funny thing, out of the threads I have started so far, this one got the greatest number of replies. :)
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How often did you comment at meetings?
by LDH ini have a theory and i'd like to put it to the test here.. i would be willing to bet that the posters who post a great deal probably commented more than the average publisher at the meetings.. i know it's true in my case.. on simon's forum we have the whole range of 'publishers-' from those that comment a lot ---down to those that are just there.
the lurkers.. what about you?.
lisa
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After my tenure as an elder, I stopped totally at KH meetings for about 6 months.
Now 18 months later, I have again stopped all commenting at KH meetings, and I did not comment at the book study I most recently attended.
Unless I am in full agreement with all that is taught there, I won't comment at meetings. And lately, I have not been in agreement with it.
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Wife makes a funny
by DB inon the way to dropping my wife off at work this morning, we stopped at an intersection near a funeral home which is constructed very similarly to many kingdom halls.
the following conversation took place:.
me: "that funeral home always reminds me of a kingdom hall.".
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Thanks Suscarra, yes, I was merely comparing the building design.
My wife's comment struck me as funny, so I thought I'd post it. I would never want to cause offense to someone who has lost a loved one!
The fact is, she spent alot of time auxillary pioneering, studying her Watchtower for 2-3 hours to prepare for the study, and generally obsessing over her performance of the jw religion. She finally got burned out...and trust me, she is a lot easier to live with now!
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Obessed with sex?
by DB innow that i have your attention....really, this is about sex.. this week's issue of newsweek contains an interesting commentary by anna quinlan, found on the last page, that deals with the catholic church's priestly sex scandal and how, for so many years, repressive teachings by the church in matters realting to human sexuality have been very counter-productive and have missed the mark badly while the church at the same time tried to cover-up cases of pedophilia among priests.
examples given include teachings like no divorce (while people suffer in bad marriages), no birth control (thus teaching that sex is not be engaged in simply for pleasure but with the purpose of procreation), and so on.
and yet in the meantime, they obviously missed the boat on the whole problem of sex abuse within their own priesthood.. while jw teachings are not as repressive, at times i have noticed a seeming obsession, if one might call it that, among some jws in matters of a sexual nature.
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Wow, smoldering, that's quite the research job...thanks!
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Wife makes a funny
by DB inon the way to dropping my wife off at work this morning, we stopped at an intersection near a funeral home which is constructed very similarly to many kingdom halls.
the following conversation took place:.
me: "that funeral home always reminds me of a kingdom hall.".
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On the way to dropping my wife off at work this morning, we stopped at an intersection near a funeral home which is constructed very similarly to many Kingdom Halls. The following conversation took place:
Me: "That funeral home always reminds me of a Kingdom Hall."
Wife: "Yeah, they both suck the life out of you."