Posts by sparky1

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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sparky1

TONY BALONEY.........................................................................................same $hit, different day.

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Announcement that will "test your faith"

by tezrichmond in

i saw this exact headline on jw-archive.org and couldn't find no other info about it.

anyone know anything?.

possible hoax ha ha.. .

GC seems to like to 'push' his 'Prosperity doctrine' in regards to'JEHOVAH'(tm) blessing his witnesses. And as a great side benefit he can count his TIME preaching and each post is a 'return visit'. It is a win-win situation for him. He can soothe his conscience for being here and still convince himself that he has the 'TRUTH' (tm) by castigating those who accept TTATT.

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Consider the "outcome" when elders apply the two-witness "rule"

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule is applied by elders when a witness member accuses another member of a sin, even if that sin is a criminal act.

if there arent two witnesses to the accusation, it goes nowhere, including not being reported to the authorities.

and in the case of an allegation of child abuse, the accused is free to molest again.. watchtower attorney, jim mccabe, recently stated this about jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule which he described as a bible-based belief :.

sparky1

Enzo, I have two questions for you:

Are you an ELDER?

Do you have a copy of WRITTEN instructions from the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY and its GOVERNING BODY to back up your claims?

If the answer is NO to both of these questions then you are only repeating hearsay and expressing your opinion. Hot air is free and you seem to be full of it.

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TRICK or TREAT !!!

by Zoos in

guess what i'm dressing up as this year?.

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sparky1

OK..............I'LL BITE! Are you dressing up as Mark Sanderson?

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Does The State Have The Right To Quarantine Someone Because They Might Have Ebola?

by minimus in

jw
friends

no doubt you have heard about the nurse that thumbed her nose to the state and went out of the house in spite of being ordered to stay at home.

what is your opinion on this?.

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sparky1

I live in Maine and have been following this on the news. The Governor has asked her to take a blood test for Ebola but so far I have not heard whether she is willing to comply. I agree with Witness My Fury that she is stupid and selfish. She is a nurse and she should know better. Having Libertarian leanings, I am torn as to how much the government should interfere, however I feel that her conscience should guide her in weighing her own personal interests against the harm she may bring to other people. I understand that she is willing to compromise on the issue but I have not heard anything on the news about what that compromise may entail. People like this bother me because if the shoe was on the other foot they usually sream loud and long that 'something must be done'. (That is just my opinion and I don't know how this woman feels one way or the other)

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Perfect description of the Governing Body and their attitude toward the rank and file

by sparky1 in

"as we have seen in the genesis account of how adam and eve are eternally punished for defying jehovah's orders to stay away from the tree of knowledge, any rebellion against the authority of the ruling male priesthood-and by jehovah's direct command, men in general-was made a heinous sin.

both authoritarianism and male dominance were here solidly justified by the same dictum that modern totalitarians and would be totatlitarians, be they of the theistic right or the athiestic left, still preach to their followers: don't think, accept what is, accept what authority says is true.

above all, do not use your own intelligence, your own powers of mind, to question us or to seek independent knowledge.

sparky1

"As we have seen in the Genesis account of how Adam and Eve are eternally punished for defying Jehovah's orders to stay away from the tree of knowledge, any rebellion against the authority of the ruling male priesthood-and by Jehovah's direct command, men in general-was made a heinous sin. Both authoritarianism and male dominance were here solidly justified by the same dictum that modern totalitarians and would be totatlitarians, be they of the theistic right or the athiestic left, still preach to their followers: Don't think, accept what is, accept what authority says is true. Above all, do not use your own intelligence, your own powers of mind, to question us or to seek independent knowledge. For if you do, your punishment will be horrible indeed."- The Chalice & The Blade by Riane Eisler page 101 paragraph 1 edition 1987

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Consider the "outcome" when elders apply the two-witness "rule"

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule is applied by elders when a witness member accuses another member of a sin, even if that sin is a criminal act.

if there arent two witnesses to the accusation, it goes nowhere, including not being reported to the authorities.

and in the case of an allegation of child abuse, the accused is free to molest again.. watchtower attorney, jim mccabe, recently stated this about jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule which he described as a bible-based belief :.

sparky1

"Since I caused thousands to leave the organization when I appeared on Dateline, I am to blame for their deaths at Armageddon, so I'm the worst of the worst."- Barbara Anderson

THE FIRST REACTION TO TRUTH IS HATRED - Tertullian

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Pope says Big bang and Evolution are correct !

by Phizzy in

from the u.k independent newspaper :.

" the theories of evolution and the big bang are real and god is not a magician with a magic wand, pope francis has declared.. speaking at the pontifical academy of sciences, the pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, benedict xvi.. francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.. when we read about creation in genesis, we run the risk of imagining god was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything.

but that is not so, francis said.. he added: he created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.. the big bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.. evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.. the catholic church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the earth revolved around the sun.. but pope franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of pope pius xii, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the big bang theory.

sparky1

The Big Bang theory is nothing new to the Catholic Church.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/dp27bi.html

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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

by Terry in

"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".

if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.

over 7 years of every jw's time?.

sparky1

This should be the uniform for the entire GOVERNING BODY, Writing Department and Service Department. Maybe if they look at each other long enough they will learn to stop pontificating on their ridiculous religious ideas and begin to treat 'the flock' as real human beings with needs,wants and desires unique to individuals. The Rank and File NEVER made up the BULLSHIT surrounding 1975! The only ones that should take the blame and responsibility are the creators of this ludicrous idea.

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A QUESTION FOR JW'S who say, "The brothers were overly zealous" about 1975

by Terry in

"what was the actual significance of that year, then?".

if jw's were overly zealous, what was the exact amount of zeal encouraged by the wts for a non-event which took up.

over 7 years of every jw's time?.

sparky1

Excellent quotes DesirousOf Change! It was great to see them presented in chronological order. You just showed how a 'Watchtower jerk job and mind fuck' is created and then dismantled all within the short span of 13 years.