Posts by sparky1

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

sparky1

"I have never heard anyone uttering the word bullshit or shit among JWs."- lsw1961

You must lead a very sheltered life. I knew a long time Elder that frequently referred to his sons as Shit-birds and I heard the word shit at Bethel more times that I could count! And I have it on good authority that Nathan Knorr had a VERY salty tongue behind closed doors. If you would like to contact me apart from this forum I will adjust my tinfoil hat to your frequency if you let me know just what that frequency is.

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

sparky1

"We are linked by the genuine thought vibrations, only the genuine feels like us..."-lsw1961

You had better turn up you thought vibrations device to its highest level. Apparently no one here is on the receiving end of your hocus-pocus bullshit.

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

sparky1

Since all the worthy ones in "all nations" are going to be saved, there is no need to leave the JW org.

lsw1961, if you really believe that, than this statement would be closer to the truth:

Since all worthy ones in "all nations" are going to be saved, there is no need FOR the JW org.

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83,000 theocratic facilites?

by average joe in

a bethelite was telling me that there are 83,000 theocratic facilities world wide.

he compared that to 35,000 mcdonalds and 21,000 starbucks roughly to show the size of the theocratic organization.

i am not sure where the 83,000 comes from what would he be counting?

sparky1

millie210

I would be more interested in hearing about comparable religious holdings. S.D.A. or Mormons for example.

Sorry for my poor scan. It is a chart of the GENERAL SURVEY OF ORGANIZATIONS for the S.D.A. church for the years 1863-2013. In 2013 they declare a total of 76,364 churches. I don't know if this is buildings or congregations. Total organizations are listed as 85,428 and again I don't know how this number is calculated but it is interesting just the same.

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83,000 theocratic facilites?

by average joe in

a bethelite was telling me that there are 83,000 theocratic facilities world wide.

he compared that to 35,000 mcdonalds and 21,000 starbucks roughly to show the size of the theocratic organization.

i am not sure where the 83,000 comes from what would he be counting?

sparky1

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

sparky1

Don't forget the 'green handshakes' that the average Bethelite never sees.

(That could be either a good point or a bad point depending on whether you are on the receiving end or not)

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Freedom in admitting the truth...

by _Morpheus in

for those that lurk or havnt decided to post yet.... living a lie is difficult.

nobody would likely disagree with that... many of us lived or are living the wt lie for the sake of friends or family.

it can eat at us and put us in situations where we frame half truths, try to find tactful way to avoid telling people what we really think.. there is great freedom in being able to admit truths.

sparky1

"The only people who are mad at you for speaking the truth are those people that are living a lie." - Anonymous

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Did you know anyone who commited suicide in the org?

by JH in

jw
friends

back in 1991, a young brother maybe 18 years old living next to my place committed suicide.

his father expected him to be very zealous just like he was, but the son never wanted to be like that.

he was always controlled by his father.

sparky1

Here is a suicide from the '70s that many Bethelites remember and SHOULD NEVER FORGET! 42 years ago.

I did not know Jim but his brother Marvin was my roommate.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/129592/my-bethel-esperience-part-19

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

sparky1

The Jehovah's Witness religion is not a smorgasbord where you can take what you want and leave behind what you don't want. It is a full on commitment. If you don't understand that lsw1961, than you are not a REAL Jehovah's Witness and your posts are meaningless claptrap.

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

sparky1

JWs have more good points than bad.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." - Mark Twain