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sparky1
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Your work is not in vain! Thank You!
by de-opresso-liber inbeen lurking since early this year.
there are many of us out there (at least in this area, central u.s.) who are waking up and crossing the line to talk to each other about it.
in our area, several elders, ministerial servants and pioneers are actively and openly sharing info with each other daily.
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What were the old baptism questions?
by NikL ini was baptized in 1981 and i think the questions i was asked at the time are different from the ones they use now.. also, if they are different, when was the change made?.
thanks.
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sparky1
Of course, true Christians in the first century never had baptismal questions nor were they required to appear before a service committee, individual elders or any type of ecclesiastical body to prove their faith. Such 'dogma' and requirements were only added later as individual religious denominations needed to make sure that their converted adherents were fully indoctrinated into their belief system and thereby 'qualified' for baptism. All Christian religious systems baptize you into their own particular 'brand'.
"Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him." - Acts 8:35-38 KJV
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November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.
by Crazyguy inthier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.
this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.
there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.
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"Do these assholes realize how stupid they are??" - DATA-DOG
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What Percentage Of The Governing Body Are Pedofiles?
by Brokeback Watchtower inthe reason i ask this is because we heard reports that greenlees was kicked out of bethel because he was one and then we heard reports that another one, jaracz i believe was one all though it sounds kind of iffy to me.. 2 out of i don't how many total gb seems kind of high so i'm thinking that perhaps the percentage is quite higher as this would explain to a degree why the gb have written in clauses to keep the organization from reporting them to authorities.. it is true that part of the reason they remain silent to authorities is because of the reproach it brings to their precious corporation but i think that is only a small part of the reason and perhaps there might be a bigger reason maybe quite a few have been over powered by their darker side and have engaged in this behavior but because of denial and delusion they will not confess and willingly encourage cover ups.. just speculation i know but i'm starting to think that there is a very dark side to all of these guys hidden by their persona(jungian) that is making them stoop so low as to implement these very bad policies..
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sparky1
Outlaw............you forgot 1 DIRTBAG:
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Interviews to select new Governing Body members
by Lostandfound inimagine the scene, a comfortable conference room in brooklyn hq, with a round table with a handful of current gb members on one side.
a lone chair opposite is for the prospective new gb members to sit and be questioned as to their fitness.
lett asks, "have maintenance fitted your room with new light bulbs?".
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Or more precisely: A CIRCLE OF JERKS!
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Org Is RACIST! Towards Sisters Of COLOR In Particular--IMO!
by HiddlesWife ini'm sorry--i'm getting this very sensitive vibe that the org (mainly those at the top) don't have any respect--forget about love--for sisters of color.
i'm coming to this conclusion from a couple of videos on jw broadcasting about single sisters.. after watching this video: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnjrbkggp4g.
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"One of the worse jobs at Bethel is the bindery line. Go there and check it out 80% of the people there are black or Spanish." - new boy
Believe it or not, some a$$hole told me the reason for this. He said that people of color have better 'rhythm' and so can flip the 'signatures' in concert with the speed of the machine. Whether it was really policy or not, I don't know .Although I wouldn't have put it past Max Larsen or Calvin Chyke to come up with something that racist.
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How Detached Are The Governing Body From Members Of the Bethel Family Where They Live?
by Brokeback Watchtower inwell consider for a moment the layoffs at bethel?
the gb simply reassigned them out in the field for after many years of service it seems with out batting an eye with no real severance pay.
now to me that spells detachment and lack of any real concern for those who served loyally for years.. spain is trying to get some type benefits for the people/citizens in their country who served the wt corporation for years and are no longer of any use to the corporation.
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Fisherman is absolutely correct. Once upon a time, Bethelites were encouraged to make Bethel life their career. From my acceptance letter: "I hope.....you will remain much longer and become a permanent member of the Bethel family." - N. H. Knorr ( signed in ink, not rubber stamped)
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New JW couple. Send them your well wishes here!
by JimmyPage ina few years ago a jw lost her husband.
she had enough money to build a nice home but she went over budget and the house remains unfinished.
this past year another jw lost his wife... but there is a happy ending!
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Praise VIAGRA!
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Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016
by wifibandit inupdate on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.
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sparky1
I would like to retitle that video for the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society:
Clone and Drone meet BOB THE BUILDER!
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How Detached Are The Governing Body From Members Of the Bethel Family Where They Live?
by Brokeback Watchtower inwell consider for a moment the layoffs at bethel?
the gb simply reassigned them out in the field for after many years of service it seems with out batting an eye with no real severance pay.
now to me that spells detachment and lack of any real concern for those who served loyally for years.. spain is trying to get some type benefits for the people/citizens in their country who served the wt corporation for years and are no longer of any use to the corporation.
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"It was the underling feeling that deep down you knew that they really didn't care for us workers." - new boy
And they 'made no bones about it'! I was having terrible digestion problems at Bethel. Most of the time I vacillated between constipation, diarrhea and throwing up. So I went and talked my issues over with Dr. Roylance. His answer was: 'If you don't like the food at Bethel, you can LEAVE at any time.' No medical advice or ordering of tests to see if he could help me. Years later, after still suffering I found out that I had severe 'gluten sensitivity'. Thank goodness for two REAL doctors from two different disciplines. Both were wise enough to give me an endomysial antibody blood test. I am still not 100% but am doing better than I was at 'Gods House'. At Bethel, you were just another 'cog in the wheel' that could be replaced at any time.