A Believer is just spreading more Jehovah's Witness apologetics shit. In time he, she or it will tire of pontificating here and move on to greener pastures. Until that time, I will sit back and enjoy the 'show'.
sparky1
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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December 28, 2016 BOE Re: One Study Edition of The Watchtower in Languages Other Than English
by wifibandit indecember 28, 2016 to all congregations re: one study edition of the watchtower in languages other than english.
dear brothers:.
for several years, the simplified edition of the watchtower has been produced in french,.
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Good one Vidiot!
Seems like the Governing Body (tm) has just rediscovered the Dick and Jane series of books from their childhood.
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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"I am glad to have found the true religion." - A Believer
Me too! They fit perfectly.
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watchtower lapel pins
by wannaexit ini've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.
i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.
but why on earth are they sporting a building?
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OK Richard Oliver......give me your 'expert' opinion:
The writers of the Simpsons cartoon show decide that they want to have a subset of characters, much like 'Itchy and Scratchy', appear on the show from time to time. They decide to copy exactly the characters of Caleb and Sophia from the Watchtower videos. Everything about the characters is identical: voice inflections, dress and grooming, their names, their facial expressions and even includes them using Watchtower 'talk' without directly lifting information 'word for word' from any publication. Does the Watchtower Society have any recourse against the creators of the Simpsons cartoon or not? If so, why? If not, why not?
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watchtower lapel pins
by wannaexit ini've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.
i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.
but why on earth are they sporting a building?
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'they are not able to claim a copyright for Caleb or Sophia."- Richard Oliver
"I never said items or characters aren't copyrightable" - Richard Oliver
Which is it ? Can they or can't they be copyrighted?
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watchtower lapel pins
by wannaexit ini've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.
i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.
but why on earth are they sporting a building?
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"U.S. copyright law (title 17 of the United States Code) provides for copyright protection of literary and artistic works. Copyright protection begins automatically when a work is first created in a fixed form. Cartoons and comic strips are among the types of works of authorship protected by copyright. This protection extends to any copyrightable pictorial or written expression contained in the work. Thus a drawing, picture, depiction, or written description of a character can be registered for copyright. Protection does not, however, extend to the title or general theme for a cartoon or comic strip, the general idea or name for characters depicted, or their intangible attributes. Although the copyright law does not provide such protection, a character may be protected under aspects of state, common, or trademark laws, and titles and names may sometimes be protected under state law doctrines or state and federal trademark laws." copyright.gov
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watchtower lapel pins
by wannaexit ini've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.
i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.
but why on earth are they sporting a building?
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Richard Oliver......thank you for not providing ANY proof that Caleb and Sophia as characters are not copyrighted or trademarked. I am to accept your word just because you say so. Read the link that I provided and perhaps you will learn something.
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watchtower lapel pins
by wannaexit ini've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.
i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.
but why on earth are they sporting a building?
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Actually, Richard Oliver, I believe that Watchtower can obtain both copyright and trademark rights for Caleb and Sophia if they so desire. You stated that "Watchtower does not own a copyright for Caleb and Sophia, nor are they able to claim a copyright for Caleb and Sophia." Can you provide direct evidence for such a claim? Caleb and Sophia are not just depictions of a generic boy and girl but rather are specific characters used to present a copyrighted idea. Go to JW.ORG and access the Children's page "Become Jehovah's Friend". There you will find videos, songs and activities based around the Caleb and Sophia characters. Now, scroll down to the bottom of the page and notice that it says: "Copyright (c) 2017 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania." Next, click on TERMS OF USE and you will see that they 'claim' copyright for all text and information on the website. To further your legal education I have provided a link for you to a 'real' lawyer discussing the subject of Character trademarks and copyright:
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Mom died, How and When I found out
by 3rdgen inhi friends,.
it's been awhile since i've been talkative.
thought i'd give you an account of my latest family dysfunction.. a brief backstory is that i am an only child whose parents were born in jw's.
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"Criticism was her only form of communication" - 3rdgen
Sounds just like my mother! She was viciously criticizing me right up to her death in the hospital! Lots of cruel and unchristian parents were produced by the Watchtower doctrine. I have complete empathy and sympathy for you having to grow up in a dysfunctional family system. At least we survived and thrived the best we could without intentionally hurting others. Best wishes to you.
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Aid to Bible Understanding - can you help summarise any useful sections?
by Fernando inrandall watters presents the fascinating backstory of the "aid book", and the brouhaha surrounding it, in this article:.
"the watchtower bible and tract society: the critical years 1975-1997".
so far it seems the project to research and write the "aid to bible understanding" revealed serious doctrinal and institutional flaws that the gb wanted to preserve nonetheless.. it seems what ray franz and his team were learning, and were largely blocked from presenting:.
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Here you go 3rdgen:
"Sexually immoral acts committed by a married person with someone of the same sex (homosexuality) are filthy and disgusting. Unrepentant persons of this type will not inherit Gods kingdom. And, of course, bestiality is Scripturally condemned. (Lev. 18:22, 23: Rom. 1:24-27 ; 1 Cor. 6:9,10) However, though these acts are grossly filthy, they do not constitute adultery, and are not named as Christian grounds for divorce." - AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING page 460 under subheading ONLY GROUND FOR DIVORCE AMONG CHRISTIANS
A clear cut instance of the Governing Body (tm) 'not being inspired and can make mistakes'. God intoxicated, religiously deluded , narcissistic charlatans playing with peoples lives by masquerading as spiritual and moral guides!