Posts by sparky1

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Kids ... and baptism.

by Tallon in

i have noticed, from reading posts on this and other related websites, what to me is an alarming practice taking place within the jw's.

and that is the baptism of kids.. on a recent discussion posted by pe ( video of the girl now forced to shun her sister) this child was baptised at 9 years old.

all of us who were baptised at a much older age know of the many questions one needs to give serious consideration and understanding of to become eligible for baptism, not to mention the two baptism questions asked before being dunked.. surely the organisation must know that children of such a young age are not mature enough to fully grasp the seriousness, demands and consequences of making such a decision.. another point; if jesus is the example to follow, then why did he only get baptised at age 30, and he was perfect!.

sparky1

"I doubt he was an elder at 19." - Fulano

It depends on the time and the circumstances. Nowadays I believe it would be impossible, but I don't know for sure since I have been out of the loop for years. When I was 17 years old back in the Winter of 1972-1973, the congregation I moved into ( to serve where the need is great) had only 2 Ministerial Servants and no Elders. The Circuit Overseer contacted the Service Department and asked if I could be appointed a Ministerial Servant right away. They agreed that it would be OK to do so. (I wasn't appointed because I didn't stay in the congregation) Then the Circuit Overseer asked if I could be appointed an Elder before I turned 20 years old and the Service department said that it was possible but that the appointment would have to be approved directly by the Governing Body. As you probably remember, Fulano, things were much different pre-1975.

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Returning to the truth.

by Justmeok2 in

hi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.

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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..

sparky1

It looks to me like Justmeok2 is involved in 'spiritual catfishing'.

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Chapter 13 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

by new boy in

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chapter 13. they get my heart, soul and my body.

saturday morning i was up at 6:30. it was fun trying to share small bathroom with seven other guys, all trying to get ready in 20 minutes.

i threw some cloths on and headed to first “morning worship.” gilbert said i could sit on his table since there was an extra space there.

sparky1

Keith, I remember my first breakfast. Boy did I fu@k up! I left a small amount of food on my plate that I didn't feel like eating. The table head chewed me a new a$$hole and acted like I was stealing $1,000,000.00 from Jehovah himself and his organization.

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2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister

by pale.emperor in

this poor girl was baptized at 9yo.

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she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.

sparky1

I feel very sorry for this little girl. Unbeknownst to her, she is being manipulated by the Circuit Overseer, the Elders in her congregation and her Watchtower trained parents or parent to be an innocent 'public relations face', espousing the EVIL pontifications of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. She is having her 'moment in the sun' or '15 minutes of fame' now. Unless she becomes a Pioneer in the next few years and later marries someone with a position in the organization, she will be relegated to the unknown masses of ignored single sisters waiting patiently for Jehovah to 'save' her from the life she was 'unknowingly' forced into.

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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?

by waton in

`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .

sparky1

"How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?"- waton

Isn't there a limerick that deals with part of this question?

'There once was a man from Nantucket..............'

There is no mention of the mans age in the limerick but there is something in there about where Franz can 'stick it' for his part in this whole religious fiasco.

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Why is the "faithful slave" not declaring the COMPLETE kingdom message?

by The Fall Guy in

w16 january p. 26 par.

15 - "during the last days, jehovah has continued to select those who will make up the 144,000. if he chooses to wait until late into that period to select some for that privilege, who are we to question his wisdom?

during the past 80 years, thanks to the "slave's" direction, j.w.

sparky1

"There are NO new remnant." - This is a direct quote from Nathan Knorr, third president of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. He said this at the dedication of the Natick, Massachusetts Assembly Hall in the early 1970's. I guess 'ole Nathan was an Apostate and didn't even know it!

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What in the flying F....????

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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https://www.facebook.com/tupuebloesmipueblojehova/videos/578539175868967/?hc_ref=arrvbqq6myd5outlusr6zufmvffwsvr_duxl_fdriuhhniiuesiylhi43gybtziknxwthis video gave me cancer..

sparky1

I second that! What in the holy, flying fu@k is THAT all about!? Forty years ago you would have been reproved for conduct like that. (On a lighter note, at least the new, repackaged Jehovah's Witness religion gives the appearance of being normal and fun.)

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psychopath

by mann377 in

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very interesting article.

read this and see if this reminds you of seven men in warwick or some you have known in the congregation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4718414/psychopaths-better-learning-lie-others.html.

sparky1

"........or some you have known in the congregation." - Mann377

Why yes, I am reminded of many 'Bethel' Elders back in the day that wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit them the ass! One that comes to mind is Aldoph Jones. He'd lie when the truth would do better.

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My mums dying she refuses blood transfusion...the horror.

by Witness 007 in

mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.

so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.

watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.

sparky1

My mother died in the year 2000 because she would not accept a blood transfusion. She had an unusual form of Thyroid cancer. I don't envy you for what you are going through. My mother was in the hospital almost 5 months and I visited her nearly every day, signed her surgical orders, worked with her doctors and still ran my business. The whole affair was soul sucking and life draining. Take care of yourself and don't let this experience crush you. Witness parents don't always realize the 'hell' that they put their children through. I am sure that you love your mother, but respect her wishes and let her go in peace, if you can. My thoughts are with you because I understand the agony you are going through.

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I left the organization

by Issa in

i left the organization.

my awakening was this month of july, the first week of july.

i couldn't answer my own questions about the organization or the doctrines, i couldn't understand the prophecies, i couldn't figure quite well what i was feeling.

sparky1

Congratulations...............and welcome!