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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

_Morpheus, it seems that you and I are in the minority when it comes to more rational thoughts on this topic. It is interesting to me that this discussion has spilled over into 3 separate topics. It shows that a lot of people have strong opinions and slimboyfat seems to back up his contentions with facts. I wish to examine one of his contentions with a fact:

"Another poster quoted a bethel insider who said Watchtower was making millions of dollars a week from magazine sales. Very realistic when you consider the cover price, the circulation numbers, and the low cost of production. ......... The 1970/80's was the all time boom in Watchtower sales." - slimboyfat

FACT: Lets take slimboys claim that in the 70/80's, millions of dollars a week were made on magazine sales. I decided to look at the figures for 1980 which would put us right smack in the middle (time wise) for his claim:

January 1, 1980 Watchtower magazine had a production of 8,750,000 units.

The inside cover list a price of .10 or ten cents American.

8,750,000 X .10 = $875,000.00 ( A far cry from his stated MILLIONS!)

And that is gross receipts not including cost of production!

I have said it before and I will say it again. You (slimboyfat) are WRONG and you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Need I go on?

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Approximately how many JW have left permanently?

by longgone in

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i did try a search before posting this question and found nothing current.

pew research -2016 says approximately two thirds of those born into the religion in the united states alone, no longer consider themselves as members.

(sorry, still don't know how to link, but it's an easy google search.).

sparky1

Pete Zahut got me thinking. I am 62 years old and off the top of my head I came up with 40 witnesses that I have known since growing up a witness that left the religion and never returned! WOW! I bet if I strained my brain, I could come up with more.

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

sparky1

"I don't see the preaching work lasting another 10 years." - Fisherman

Would you or slimboyfat start another topic on this? I have no opinion one way or the other, but I would like to know how people here feel about this. It could make for some interesting observations.

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Governing Body Members Confessing Before Feds And Trying To Plea Bargin

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i'm sure that insider informants ie: gb ass protectors may offer themselves as witnesses in a plea bargin from prosecution.. i'm thinking that a few gb member might turn in evidence to the state to lighten their sentence for charity fraud..

sparky1

Tax Inquiries and Examinations of Churches

Congress has imposed special limitations, found in IRC Section 7611, on how and when the IRS may conduct civil tax inquiries and examinations of churches. The IRS may only initiate a church tax inquiry if an appropriate high-level Treasury Department official reasonably believes, based on a written statement of the facts and circumstances, that the organization: (a) may not qualify for the exemption or (b) may not be paying tax on an unrelated business or other taxable activity. - Publication 1828 (Rev. 8-2015) Catalogue Number 21096G Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service

Yes, it is possible for the IRS to revoke the WATCHTOWER's tax exempt status but it is highly unlikely. Unless WATCHTOWER is doing something blatantly illegal, the IRS will leave them alone.

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

sparky1

Yours is a very perceptive and reasonable post, ScenicViewer and in my opinion is probably what is going on behind closed doors.

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

sparky1

"The second one, as explained above." - slimboyfat

Apparently, Jehovah's Witnesses don't have the market cornered on new light.

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

sparky1

"The whole thing is a fragile, hollowed-out mess, liable to collapse any minute." - slimboyfat 8 days ago.

"I think all this could happen within 10-20 years." - slimboyfat 1 day ago.

Which is it?

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

sparky1

_Morpheus, I think you are wasting your time trying to be sensible and appeal to reason.When it comes to the exciting predictions of the demise of WATCHTOWER and Jehovah's Witnesses in general, the real facts of how American corporate business is conducted is ignored and denigrated. What is also neglected, from a religious standpoint, is how tenacious a 'true believer' can be in supporting and protecting the organization that brought them spiritual comfort and group identity.

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My First Job before Armageddon (1975)

by TerryWalstrom in

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my first job before armageddonprologue: i left texas in 1974 and headed west to california to search for a job as an artist.

i didn't want to spend the rest of my life toiling for minimum wage as a janitor jehovah's witness.it was the year before 1975. as a jw, that should be a scary year.

not for me!i was determined to escape from all the influences of crazy people and to start living a real life.and now the story begins...______he was a tall man with a full and kinky black beard, glasses, and pretentious poseur pipe.. his name was jim rakey (rhymes with "flakey") and he belonged to a cult dedicated to the eternal truth: atlantis (the lost continent) would rise again from the sea as the enlightened government for all the world.

sparky1

'Go ahead Donny, Make my day!'

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Updates on the workload of Bethelites

by usualusername1 in

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have the bethelites started cooking and doing their own washing yet?

how are they coping?.

paul.

sparky1

Oh my god........this reminds me of a funny story. I had a friend that used to work on the 'wrappers'. That was the machine that used to wrap the magazines to be sent out to individual subscribers. At any rate, my friend had the habit of using 'unchristian' language while working the machine. Just his luck, he was assigned a 'newboy' to work on his team. A more self righteous prick you could not find. He would carry the bible and an AID book to work every morning and he would whistle and hum Kingdom Songs all day long. My friend didn't take kindly to the 'newboy's' musical repertoire and would swear at him from time to time and tell him to stop. If it was the 'newboy's' turn to be the feeder, he would shut off the machine and immediately lecture my friend and then report to the Factory Overseer my friends grave moral sins. My friend complained to me about it and my advice was as follows: 'Just bide your time. This guy is a moral loose cannon and his self righteous exterior is to cover over something. He'll be gone soon...just wait and see.' Well I'll be God damned! He came in one Monday morning with no bible, no AID book and musical repertoire. But he went to work! After lunch, he was no where to be found. He was gone! Apparently he had been having sex with a 13 year old girl in his congregation and was disfellowshipped that Sunday night. Word didn't get back from the congregation to the Bethel office until some time that morning. Once the Bethel Office found out, he was HISTORY. Out of the building before 5 o'clock that evening. It couldn't have happened to a more deserving little prick. I know of at least 2 others (1 a BETHEL Elder) that this happened to. Thanks for jogging my memory....it was good for a laugh!