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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

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  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  " I am a doubter, beginning on that path." - Doubter (from his profile page)

  I will cut you some slack and accept that you are sincere in posting here and want to learn some things about Jehovah's Witnesses and Bethel that you were not aware of. I won't question your sincerity in why you do and say the things that you do on this forum. Neither Morpheus nor I made any claims as to being "forced" into Bethel service. As ex-Bethelites we do have a right to express our opinion on what it was like to 'serve' there.
  
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  What is the Pillow Gate Videos?

  by new boy in

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  also does any have any information about a primary school instructor name wilkinson at bethel .

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  My older Bethelite friends told me that he was gay and a big disappointment to Knorr. Of course, this is second hand information and I was not at Bethel when he was 'kicked out'. Any ex-Bethelites here around 70 years old could probably corroborate the story.
  
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  Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

  it reads rather culty.

  i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

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  "That contract is a one way street. I know from personal experience." - _Morpheus

  No shit. You were not a human being to most of the Bethel Overseers. You were a dispensable cog in the WATCHTOWER Organization.

  This is what the vow should look like:

  Be grateful for your food!

  Do your job!

  Shut your mouth!

  ___________________________Sign Here
  
  
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  What is the Pillow Gate Videos?

  by new boy in

  1. jw
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  also does any have any information about a primary school instructor name wilkinson at bethel .

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  Wilkinson or Wilkerson? Was he the guy that was allowed to keep his mattress on the floor because he didn't like sleeping in a bed? Of course, this was against NY City fire regulations but because of his position George Couch looked the other way. I don't know if this is the same guy or not but wasn't he caught up in one of the 'gay purges' in the late 60's early 70's?
  
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  Did the jw's leadership ever apologize for 1975?

  by dugout in

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  talking to my friend who's an elder, when i asked him did the leadership ever attempt to apologize for the 1975 prediction fiasco he said they did.

  and he was going to show me.

  i'm still waiting..................................................tic toc did they???

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  sparky1

  The 1975 train went off the rails and crashed a long time ago. No apologies, ever! Some survivors never healed from their emotional and spiritual wounds and never boarded a Watchtower train again. But the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses didn't care that they were actually the Engineers, Conductors and Brakemen on that train. Governing Body 2.0 just boarded another train called JW.Org Broadcasting and brought the gullible along with them for the ride.
  

  
  
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  What immodest clothing have you got in trouble for wearing?

  by Addison0998 in

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  i personally have a very distinct sense of style and fashion which many of the fellow jdubs frown upon.

  recently, i was told by a few specially self righteous ones that i looked like a prostitute in a pair of white boots!

  a pair of 3 inch heeled, just a little taller than the ankle boots, with skirt that came down to my knees and a black long sleeve shirt that came up to my collarbone.

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  sparky1

  Not quite on topic but: I've always had naturally curly hair. Apparently in the '70's it was a no-no. As a young pioneer, I was out in the door to door work with the Circuit Overseer. Now mind you, my hair was not long just curly. He told me that I needed to use Brylcreem to straighten my hair and look more presentable for Jehovah. I guess Jehovah frowns on white boys with curly hair.
  
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  The Governing Body / Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Sin Of Omission ,How guilty are they ? Can you give an example ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".

  i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..

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  "They THANKED the guardian."- Doubter

  I have scoured the Internet looking for this "thank you" letter. Would you please provide a copy for me to read. The only letter that I could find was the following and it did not contain any thank you note:

  
  
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  Serena William is 'fighting for women'?!

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so serena williams lost the us open final 6-2, 6-4 to naomi osaka, her japanese-american opponent.. williams received three code violations from the umpire, carlos ramos: .

  1. a warning for illegal coaching (subsequently admitted by williams's coach).

  2. a point penalty for smashing her racquet.

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  "there are much nicer looking black women......." - Simon

  

  Like Sheinelle Jones of NBC'S Today Show. Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

  (Sorry to go off topic...I couldn't help myself)
  
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  Serena William is 'fighting for women'?!

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  so serena williams lost the us open final 6-2, 6-4 to naomi osaka, her japanese-american opponent.. williams received three code violations from the umpire, carlos ramos: .

  1. a warning for illegal coaching (subsequently admitted by williams's coach).

  2. a point penalty for smashing her racquet.

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  "You can't make me celebrate my daughters birthday! And another thing: If you don't repent now, Jehovah will destroy you at Armageddon! Don't say I didn't warn you.!"
  
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  What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.

  i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.

  however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?

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  sparky1

  Randy Watters website FREEMINDS was the first website that I found. Being an exBethelite, I found his stories compelling and rang true with my own experience at Bethel. Wish he was still keeping that site current.