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  "The Calendar of Jehovah God" - a historical tidbit

  by OrphanCrow in

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  in 1935, clayton woodworth (editor of the golden age - later the awake!

  magazine) devised a 'new' calendar that he proposed was far superior to the pagan calendars that have been used in human history.he wrote a three part series for the golden age (i am not sure if these were actually published) that laid out his justifications for how this new calendar was more accurate and of course, was right in line with the divine plan.

  the calendar was published in the 1935 yearbook, but the watchtower magazine later published a retraction to the calendar.

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  Sam van Sipma told me that in private Rutherford told Woodworth:

  'Stop wasting your time on that god-damned calendar!'

  Not a direct quote. Just my memory of a conversation with Sam.
  
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  Ray Franz

  by pbrow in

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  i know ray and his wife have passed but i wanted to take a few minutes and put my thanks in writing.

  it is pretty incredible to me that someone who i never met, played such a major role in my outlook on life and more importantly in my (at the time) young daughters lives.

  from the very first pages of "crisis of conscience" it seemed as though ray was writing to me.

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  "They were a lovely, caring couple"

  

  And faithful to each other 'til the end.
  
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  Check out this shameless image on jw.org.

  by nicolaou in

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  another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.

  this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.

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  "If they could combine their belief in the end time with a more reasonable approach to equipping their children for life in this system in the meantime, it wouldn't be so bad"-SBF

  

  Except of course for those children that needlessly die from a lack of a blood transfusion, or are sacrificed on the 'altar of the two witness rule for child molesters', or shunning and disfellowshipping, or no worldly associates, or no holidays, or extra activities at school and on and on and on.......

  DREAM ON, SBF!
  
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  Televangelist Kenneth Copeland

  by mann377 in

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  had to laugh at this.

  this may be what the wbts end up doing in the future as they become televangelist.

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  Kenneth Copeland 'ain't got nothin' ' on Stevie Lett!
  
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  Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.

  by benny in

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  what are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.

  i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.

  this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..

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  The draft ended in the United States in 1973. However, I went to prison for my beliefs in 1974. I became a Bethelite!
  
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  Another thing that woke me up

  by nowawake14 in

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  well, the typical person doesn't have to worry about field service and reporting time.

  so why should i have to?.

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  I remember that sir82. That was the last regional convention I ever attended. I could not believe the hubris and down right arrogance in using 'poetic license' to create such a stupid scenario.
  
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  Convention 2019: Children told don't form emotional attachment to pets!

  by Nathan R. Koppe in

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  i have just heard from a visitor to the jehovah's witnesses convention for 2019, that they have been told; 'not to form an emotional attachment to their pets, as animals don't have feelings anyway'.. well, that should break a few children hearts!👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 🥴 😭 💔.

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  Here you go tiki. You are so right. Those ignorant fools on the Governing Body 'give' with one hand and 'take away' with the other. The poor children in this religion get 'mind f@cked' on a daily basis.

  
  
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  Convention 2019: Children told don't form emotional attachment to pets!

  by Nathan R. Koppe in

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  i have just heard from a visitor to the jehovah's witnesses convention for 2019, that they have been told; 'not to form an emotional attachment to their pets, as animals don't have feelings anyway'.. well, that should break a few children hearts!👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 🥴 😭 💔.

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  Sorry Governing Body...my cat has more love and affection for me than all of you 'rat b@st@rds' combined. She has been a faithful and loyal companion through thick and thin and I would not give her up for all the money in the world.
  
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  Remember when we lodged in private homes at conventions?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  i bring this up now because i haven't seen any postings about that practice because i got out in 1977. when did wt quit soliciting private homes for accomodations?

  or have they stopped?.

  i hated it, but it was the only way we could afford to go.

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  Interesting experience FatFreek. I'm glad you came away unscathed. Your story sounds like the reverse version of the Joe Buck/Mr. O'Daniel encounter in the movie MIDNIGHT COWBOY.
  
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  Fifty years ago today: One quote to demolish the Watchtower

  by JeffT in

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  i did not have any connection to jw's when they published this, about two weeks before i graduated from high school.

  i'm now on medicare and collecting social security.

  so much for their ability to see into the future.

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  You gave great advice, fastJehu! I had something similar happen to me when I was a Bethelite back in 1976. I took an older gentleman and his small family on tour. At the end of the tour, he asked if he could give me some advice. I said sure. He told me that he was a Bethelite back in the late 30's and early 40's and that they were preaching Armageddon to the Bethel family 'any day now'. He figured out that it was a lot of hot air and left Bethel and established himself in a good job. He advised me to do the same. I followed his advice, eventually became a full partner in a business and semi-retired at 47 years old. In two years I will be fully retired and have an excellent Social Security benefit plus all my investments and cash. One of my very good friends from my Bethel days is coming up on 70 years old without a penny to his name because he chose to be a Circuit Overseer. (Which incidentally was the road I was supposed to take) Interestingly enough, he advised me against going into any type of business since it would just be destroyed in the soon to be coming Armageddon and I shouldn't waste my time on worldly pursuits. I hope that young Bethelite appreciates the time you took to help him 'see the light'. Kudos to you!