I read through it in just a few days. My sister was up on vacation and read it in about three days. She never realized what some of us Bethelites had to go through. The book corroborated some of my own stories for her. Highly recommended for any non-Bethelite for a 'peek behind the curtain'.
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I guess "New Boy" is now "The Bethelite"
by The Bethelite ini dropped my old computer 2 weeks ago and had to get a new one.
i tried to log on under "new boy" for over a week and since there was no way to retrieve my old pass word i gave up and started a new profile as the bethelite.
i just want to thank everyone for the help in getting my new book out, in fact i put this website in the dedication in the book.
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"The Calendar of Jehovah God" - a historical tidbit
by OrphanCrow inin 1935, clayton woodworth (editor of the golden age - later the awake!
magazine) devised a 'new' calendar that he proposed was far superior to the pagan calendars that have been used in human history.he wrote a three part series for the golden age (i am not sure if these were actually published) that laid out his justifications for how this new calendar was more accurate and of course, was right in line with the divine plan.
the calendar was published in the 1935 yearbook, but the watchtower magazine later published a retraction to the calendar.
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Sam van Sipma told me that in private Rutherford told Woodworth:
'Stop wasting your time on that god-damned calendar!'
Not a direct quote. Just my memory of a conversation with Sam.
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Ray Franz
by pbrow ini know ray and his wife have passed but i wanted to take a few minutes and put my thanks in writing.
it is pretty incredible to me that someone who i never met, played such a major role in my outlook on life and more importantly in my (at the time) young daughters lives.
from the very first pages of "crisis of conscience" it seemed as though ray was writing to me.
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"They were a lovely, caring couple"
And faithful to each other 'til the end.
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Check out this shameless image on jw.org.
by nicolaou inanother generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.
this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.
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"If they could combine their belief in the end time with a more reasonable approach to equipping their children for life in this system in the meantime, it wouldn't be so bad"-SBF
Except of course for those children that needlessly die from a lack of a blood transfusion, or are sacrificed on the 'altar of the two witness rule for child molesters', or shunning and disfellowshipping, or no worldly associates, or no holidays, or extra activities at school and on and on and on.......
DREAM ON, SBF!
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Televangelist Kenneth Copeland
by mann377 inhad to laugh at this.
this may be what the wbts end up doing in the future as they become televangelist.
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Kenneth Copeland 'ain't got nothin' ' on Stevie Lett!
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Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.
by benny inwhat are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.
i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.
this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..
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sparky1
The draft ended in the United States in 1973. However, I went to prison for my beliefs in 1974. I became a Bethelite!
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Another thing that woke me up
by nowawake14 inwell, the typical person doesn't have to worry about field service and reporting time.
so why should i have to?.
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I remember that sir82. That was the last regional convention I ever attended. I could not believe the hubris and down right arrogance in using 'poetic license' to create such a stupid scenario.
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Convention 2019: Children told don't form emotional attachment to pets!
by Nathan R. Koppe ini have just heard from a visitor to the jehovah's witnesses convention for 2019, that they have been told; 'not to form an emotional attachment to their pets, as animals don't have feelings anyway'.. well, that should break a few children hearts!๐จโ๐ฉโ๐งโ๐ฆ ๐ฅด ๐ญ ๐.
my orignal topics are at.
further info:.
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Convention 2019: Children told don't form emotional attachment to pets!
by Nathan R. Koppe ini have just heard from a visitor to the jehovah's witnesses convention for 2019, that they have been told; 'not to form an emotional attachment to their pets, as animals don't have feelings anyway'.. well, that should break a few children hearts!๐จโ๐ฉโ๐งโ๐ฆ ๐ฅด ๐ญ ๐.
my orignal topics are at.
further info:.
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Remember when we lodged in private homes at conventions?
by FatFreek 2005 ini bring this up now because i haven't seen any postings about that practice because i got out in 1977. when did wt quit soliciting private homes for accomodations?
or have they stopped?.
i hated it, but it was the only way we could afford to go.
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sparky1
Interesting experience FatFreek. I'm glad you came away unscathed. Your story sounds like the reverse version of the Joe Buck/Mr. O'Daniel encounter in the movie MIDNIGHT COWBOY.