"Philosophy is doubt."- Michel de Montaigne
And that in a 'nut shell' is why the Governing Body and Jehovahs Witnesses in general fear any form of Philosophy.
paul knew that torah with all its rituals and sacrifices did not originate with god (jeremiah 7:22; 8:8), hence he warned christians to guard against deceptive philosophy that would take them back to torah.
(colossians 2:8 compare 2:11, 16, 17) in view of the over-all view of the bible, there is no excuse to use the word philosophy with any negative connotation.
jws built their stand on philosophy based on this wrong (negative) use of the word philosophy found in colossians 2:8.. the greek word philosophi a means love of wisdom.
"Philosophy is doubt."- Michel de Montaigne
And that in a 'nut shell' is why the Governing Body and Jehovahs Witnesses in general fear any form of Philosophy.
http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .
"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.
in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".
"EndofMysteries you're arguing over semantics."- Space Madness
Semantics:
3. b.:
"the language used (as in advertising or political propaganda) to achieve a desired effect on an audience especially through the use of words with novel or dual meanings."- m-w.com (Merriam-Webster online dictionary)
Indeed the Watchtower Society does use SEMANTICS to obfuscate, deflect from, confuse and otherwise 'water down' some of their dogma, teachings and internal policies to make them more appealing in the eyes of the general public. The naive and uninitiated need to beware.
gb member and so called "annointed" person geoffry jackson is caught red handed on video doing some worldly dancing and sexual gyrating (they have spoken against such manner of dancing on several occasions) with a woman who is not his wife!!!
i can only imagine what they do off camera now!!!.
i would not have even considerd doing such a thing on the dance floor with a woman, especially if it was not my wife, and i'm not even one of the so called "annointed" smh!!!
Hey zombie dub..........there is more to this than meets the eye for some of us posting here. In the early 70's I, some memebers of my family and some members of my former congregation were 'privately reproved' for dancing in a 'conga line' at a restaurant/bar where the house band were actually witnesses. No 'worldly' people were involved. We were counseled that such a 'public display' was not bringing honor to Jehovah and to not carry on in such a manner again or risk further action. In this organization its not who you are, its WHO YOU ARE that counts.
one of the jws foundational doctrines is their belief in the inerrancy of the bible.
there are several methods they use to try and support this position including their claim that the bible, as it exists today, is the exact same bible that has been around for thousands of years.
they teach that gods word has been perfectly preserved.
Magnum, here is a great place to start your research:
"Lost Christianities: Christian Scriptures and the Battle Over Authentication"- Professor Bart D. Ehrman PHd.
Available at: www.thegreatcourses.com
howdy....well, what do you think?
of everything?
is it all crazy?
Semi-retired at 47 and now I am 59 years old!
WHO KNOWS WHERE THE TIME GOES?-Sandy Denny (Best version by Judy Collins)
Across the purple sky, all the birds are leaving
But how can they know it's time for them to go?
Before the winter fire, I will still be dreaming
I have no thought of time.
For who knows where the time goes?
Who knows where the time goes?
Sad, deserted shore, your fickle friends are leaving
Ah, but then you know it's time for them to go
But I will still be here, I have no thought of leaving
I do not count the time
For who knows where the time goes?
Who knows where the time goes?
And I am not alone while my love is near me
I know it will be so until it's time to go
So come the storms of winter and then the birds in spring again
I do not fear the time
For who knows how my love grows?
And who knows where the time goes?
is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?
with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.
does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?
Dis-Member, I see that objectivetruth has come up with a fantastic idea in helping others in need and inviting you to join in and help others too! "If you are not part of the solution, than you are part of the problem"- Eldridge Cleaver. Perhaps you and objectivetruth could get together and start a 'Jehovahs-Witness.net Charity Fund' that others could donate to and that 'needy ones' could recieve benefit from. Some type of a pay it forward arrangement. I would be willing to match you dollar for dollar to start the fund. I will PM you with the amount of money.
as a jehovah's witness:.
two things finally struck me:.
for now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now i know in part, but then i will know fully just as i also have been fully known.. _______________________.
Terry you are right on the money. I am highly critical of the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION revised 2013 (and the old one too) because of its mistranslating of words and transmogrifying certain Biblical words into 'phrases' that support Jehovahs Witnesses teachings and dogma. A case in point is the phrase 'accurate knowledge' as you have so rightly pointed out. "whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 1 Timothy 2:4 NWT revised 2013. That statement is patently ridiculous! You cannot come to an accurate knowledge of a truth. If something is an established 'truth' it is already 'accurate in its content' . If the statement 'accurate knowledge of truth' is correct than it should be able to be proven by its being stated in converse. Who in their right mind would ever believe the phrase 'inaccurate knowledge of truth'. Second rate dilettantes, fools and amateur hacks created the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION to support and uphold their own 'crazy' beliefs.
(Ernest, don't swallow the INSIGHT books definition of Epignosis hook, line and sinker.)
You are right Hamsterbait..........................Audrey probably really started to live as a fulfilled 'woman' after she married Glen. Glen Hyde was a 'mans man' unlike Nathan Knorr who really seemed to have a 'weak, mamas boy' type personality underneath his businesslike exterior.
while you are sitting there reading this, there are literally hundreds of thousands of young males and females all over the world [ mostly in america / canada and england] sitting in their grotty little smelly bedrooms or flats, designing computer viruses that they will up-load onto web-sites to cause anonymous innocent peoples computers to malfunction.
these creeps spend literally weeks,months or even years hoping to make a computer viruses that will get into peoples computer bios to completely destroy their computers.
they never see the peoples anger, frustration and distress.... the damage can cost each person about 1,000 [ $1,660.74 ] or more to replace a basic new laptop or tower.
If I believed in Freudian psychology, I would say that SPARKS is 'anal-expulsive'. He seems to enjoy spreading his shit around.
while you are sitting there reading this, there are literally hundreds of thousands of young males and females all over the world [ mostly in america / canada and england] sitting in their grotty little smelly bedrooms or flats, designing computer viruses that they will up-load onto web-sites to cause anonymous innocent peoples computers to malfunction.
these creeps spend literally weeks,months or even years hoping to make a computer viruses that will get into peoples computer bios to completely destroy their computers.
they never see the peoples anger, frustration and distress.... the damage can cost each person about 1,000 [ $1,660.74 ] or more to replace a basic new laptop or tower.
"Still, cheer up Apostates, you have managed to stumble many young brothers and sisters, some have committed suicide."- SPARKS
Where is your evidence SPARKS? Your claim is highly inflammatory and defamatory at one and the same time! Did someone confess to you before they took their own life that this website caused them to commit suicide? If you have no direct evidence of such action than you are no better than your nemisis 'Satan' who was supposed to be the first liar and accuser. Oh....you are aware that MANY Bethelites have committed suicide over the years. One of them was my first roommates brother. Who should we credit for their suicides since they were at the HUB of Jehovahs Organization and many took their own lives way before the advent of the Internet and Jehovahs-Witness.net and the proliferation of so-called 'apostates'?