Posts by sparky1

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Suicides

by new boy in

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i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.

some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.

some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.

sparky1

I understand Keith's frustration with Jehovah's Witnesses and the institution of Bethel. When he was there Bethel was a hierarchically controlled machine that was not concerned with the individual Bethelite. The welfare (mental, emotional, physical, spiritual) of the regular everyday Bethelite was subordinated to the needs of the Organization, both as the institution of Bethel and the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. Much like the 'sweeping under the rug' of child molestation in the Jehovah's Witness religion in order to 'protect' Jehovah's name and the name of the organization, so too in the institution of Bethel, many, many injustices and much outright wrong doing took place but was 'swept under the rug' in order to keep the sanitized impression of the 'House of God' in the eyes of the 'rank and file' Witnesses.

Keith, may I respectfully suggest that you make your dedication something along the lines of the following: 'My book is dedicated to James Olson and all those whose lives were sacrificed on the idolatrous altar of Jehovah's Witnesses either through suicide, persecution, bad medical advice or any number of ways that their life may have been cut short through the religious policy of Jehovah's Witnesses.' I saw some really bad shit myself at Bethel and hope that Keith's book opens the eyes of those who realize that 'something just isn't right' in this religion. Good luck with the book, Keith......I'll buy a copy for sure.

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Pope Francis condemns child sex abuse and Church cover-ups

by pleaseresearch in

this is good from the pope and really puts a lot of shame on our gb.

i could never see them doing this.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45249109.

pope francis has condemned the "atrocities" of child sex abuse and clerical cover-ups in a letter to the world's 1.2bn roman catholics.. the letter to "the people of god" calls for an end to the "culture of death" in the church, addresses failures to deal with abuse and asks for forgiveness.. last week a grand jury report detailed seven decades of abuse in pennsylvania.. the landmark investigation found more than 1,000 identifiable minors had been abused by 300 priests in the us state.. thousands more are thought to have fallen victim.

sparky1

"Real change will only happen when their customers stop giving them money."- Simon

www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/19/catholics-consider-withholding-donations-amid-scandals.html

Look out Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses......your turn is coming!

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Do You Think President Trump Will Be Impeached?

by minimus in

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whether you like him or not.... it doesn’t matter.

do you think he will be impeached?

?.

sparky1

I don't like President Trump , Vladimir Putin or Bill and Hillary Clinton one bit. However, Putin was just getting even with the 'Clinton Political Dynasty' by 'meddling' in the US election in 2016 for what Bill Clinton and the United States government did in 'influencing' Russian elections involving Boris Yeltsin over 20 years ago.

Will President trump be impeached? Only time will tell.

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Broadcasting august, clown Lett about painting the K-hall

by Gorbatchov in

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did you see the performance of stephen lett on august broadcasting?.

the illustration of painting the kingdom hall?.

used for explaining that you have to listen to elders even when they are totaly wrong?.

sparky1

Jesus Christ...................! These milquetoast speakers couldn't motivate a wet washcloth. There isn't a drop of testosterone in the whole lot of them.

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How many JDubs would believe this ridiculous statement?

by Sour Grapes in

a circuit overseer or a member of the gibbering body is giving a talk about demonism and he says the following, "there was an elder in a congregation in california who let his 8-year-old daughter watch disney movies that involved witches, gremlins, magic, and sorcery.

many may feel that they are harmless movies and are just entertainment.

well, the 8-year-old daughter actually brought a blue smurf doll to the public talk and watchtower study.

sparky1

I believe it lock, stock and barrel.

"The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist." - Charles Baudelaire

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DFed talking to other DFed

by blownaway in

i don't know if they do this any longer but back in the day they had a special section at an assembly sectioned off for dfed people who would have to wear a ribbon that said disfellowshipped.

do they still do this and what was the rules on dfed talking to dfed at the assembly?

sparky1

Sacha Baron Cohen interviewing the likes of Stephen Lett. I'd pay good money to see that train wreck!

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DFed talking to other DFed

by blownaway in

i don't know if they do this any longer but back in the day they had a special section at an assembly sectioned off for dfed people who would have to wear a ribbon that said disfellowshipped.

do they still do this and what was the rules on dfed talking to dfed at the assembly?

sparky1

Anything is possible. However, I was Assistant Attendant Overseer back in the 1970's and we never had any instructions to corral or segregate any disfellowshipped persons. And I don't recall ever seeing anything such as an identifying ribbon either.

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First time

by Deke in

good evening all, this is my first time posting.. been reading and following for two years.

my story will come soon.... but i want to say to all, thanks for all the meaningful, intellectual, honest, and insightful words!!

it’s been an interesting 48 years of service to an organization!

sparky1

Welcome to the forum. No love bombing here! You will be accepted as you are and treated with dignity.

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Was the Marlboro Man ever a Jehovah's Witness?

by sparky1 in

darrell winfield, perhaps the most famous marlboro man died in 2015 at the age of 85. he portrayed the marlboro man from 1968-1989. his brother was a long time bethelite named marion "bud" winfield.

many ex-bethelites probably remembered bud as one of the receptionists at the 124 desk.

bud died in the year 2000 at the age of 65. my question is, does anyone know if darrell was raised as a witness and left the religion early in life?

sparky1

Yes, Bud told me that Darrell was his brother. Interestingly enough, I found an obituary that mentions that all of Darrell's brothers and sisters had pre-deceased him. Bud was named after his father, Marion. Thanks for telling me about the accident. That reminds me of something else that I will P.M. you on.

http://thedavisfuneralhome.com/home/obit/1916

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Was the Marlboro Man ever a Jehovah's Witness?

by sparky1 in

darrell winfield, perhaps the most famous marlboro man died in 2015 at the age of 85. he portrayed the marlboro man from 1968-1989. his brother was a long time bethelite named marion "bud" winfield.

many ex-bethelites probably remembered bud as one of the receptionists at the 124 desk.

bud died in the year 2000 at the age of 65. my question is, does anyone know if darrell was raised as a witness and left the religion early in life?

sparky1

Darrell Winfield, perhaps the most famous Marlboro Man died in 2015 at the age of 85. He portrayed the Marlboro Man from 1968-1989. His brother was a long time Bethelite named Marion "Bud" Winfield. Many ex-Bethelites probably remembered Bud as one of the receptionists at the 124 desk. Bud died in the year 2000 at the age of 65. My question is, Does anyone know if Darrell was raised as a Witness and left the religion early in life? I found an obituary page for him with a condolences section and some of the postings are 'witness like' in nature. It's interesting that he was a lifelong smoker and yet he lived 20 years longer than his 'morally clean' non-smoking brother.