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  2012 End of the World?

  by magdalenefan in

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  2012 is the end of our age according to the mayan calendar.

  according to iraq or iran we are already entered into our last seven years according to daniel.

  famine, drought, marital problems, bankruptcies, war.

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  mavie

  You are acting all strange. It is Mayan belief. I enjoyed a film about the Dalai lama and watching his interviews on what his central to his beliefs.

  Were you booing the school teacher when she was teaching about the beliefs of American Indians and the sacred buffalo.

  I thought that was the joy of not being a Witness anymore. We could check out whatever we wanted. We have the freedom to look at beliefs around the whole world. Buddhist. Mayan, Muslim.

  Yes, I forgot, you are an American, and American Idol is on tonight.

  I feel stupid being an American. The blissful ignorance of the rest of the world.

  I don't watch American Idol. Usually the Discovery channel or I listen to NPR.

  I've traveled to many different lands and experienced their culture.

  I've explored many different belief systems, including Buddhism, Native American, Muslim, and Mayan. I've come to the conclusion there is no supreme 'truth' to be found in them. Also, nothing has convinced me those religions/philosophies can foretell when the world will end.

  I ridicule the Mayan belief the world will end in 2012 just as I would ridicule someone who thought Zeus was controlling the affairs of man from Mt. Olympus. Both are equally plausible.
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  2012 End of the World?

  by magdalenefan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2012 is the end of our age according to the mayan calendar.

  according to iraq or iran we are already entered into our last seven years according to daniel.

  famine, drought, marital problems, bankruptcies, war.

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  mavie

  Good thing I'm not an Iraqi-Iranian Mayan Jew named Daniel living on Planet X or I would REALLY be scared !!!!

  Damn, I better tell my cousin!
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  2012 End of the World?

  by magdalenefan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2012 is the end of our age according to the mayan calendar.

  according to iraq or iran we are already entered into our last seven years according to daniel.

  famine, drought, marital problems, bankruptcies, war.

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  mavie

  maybe 85 percent

  Actually, I believe it maybe 71.392%. That's if this month has a full moon on Friday...otherwise i maybe believe it 0%
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  Jude and Enoch

  by thebiggestlie in

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  havn't posted in a while but i came across this rather interesting bit of trivia that i would like to hear from ya about.

  the letter of jude at verses 14,15 make reference to a prophesy of enoch.

  this prophesy is not found in the cannonical old testament books but is found in the apocryphal book of enoch at enoch 1:9. most all scholars don't believe the book of enoch was actually written by enoch the 7th in line from adam but jude attributes this prophesy to him.

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  mavie

  thanks leo.
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  Jude and Enoch

  by thebiggestlie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  havn't posted in a while but i came across this rather interesting bit of trivia that i would like to hear from ya about.

  the letter of jude at verses 14,15 make reference to a prophesy of enoch.

  this prophesy is not found in the cannonical old testament books but is found in the apocryphal book of enoch at enoch 1:9. most all scholars don't believe the book of enoch was actually written by enoch the 7th in line from adam but jude attributes this prophesy to him.

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  mavie

  I find it to be a nice resource for exiting dubs. The articles give balanced viewpoints about biblical culture.

  As far as the book of enoch, there is a one authoritative english version out there...by some english dude 100 years ago..just amazon it.

  As far as the WT and the Book of Enoch, this is how they get around it:

  *** w019/15p.30EnochWalkedWithGodinanUngodlyWorld***

  Does

  theBibleQuoteFromtheBookofEnoch?

  The Book of Enoch is an apocryphal and pseudepigraphic text. It is falsely ascribed to Enoch. Produced probably sometime during the second and first centuries B.C.E., it is a collection of extravagant and unhistorical Jewish myths, evidently the product of exegetical elaborations on the brief Genesis reference to Enoch. This alone is sufficient for lovers of God’s inspired Word to dismiss it.

  In the Bible, only the book of Jude contains Enoch’s prophetic words: "Look! Jehovah came with his holy myriads, to execute judgment against all, and to convict all the ungodly concerning all their ungodly deeds that they did in an ungodly way, and concerning all the shocking things that ungodly sinners spoke against him." (Jude 14, 15) Many scholars contend that Enoch’s prophecy against his ungodly contemporaries is quoted directly from the Book of Enoch. Is it possible that Jude used an unreliable apocryphal book as his source?

  How Jude knew of Enoch’s prophecy is not revealed in the Scriptures. He may simply have quoted a common source, a reliable tradition handed down from remote antiquity. Paul evidently did something similar when he named Jannes and Jambres as the otherwise anonymous magicians of Pharaoh’s court who opposed Moses. If the writer of the Book of Enoch had access to an ancient source of this kind, why should we deny it to Jude?—Exodus 7:11, 22; 2 Timothy 3:8.

  How Jude received the information about Enoch’s message to the ungodly is a minor matter. Its reliability is attested to by the fact that Jude wrote under divine inspiration. (2 Timothy 3:16) God’s holy spirit guarded him from stating anything that was not true.
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  Jude and Enoch

  by thebiggestlie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  havn't posted in a while but i came across this rather interesting bit of trivia that i would like to hear from ya about.

  the letter of jude at verses 14,15 make reference to a prophesy of enoch.

  this prophesy is not found in the cannonical old testament books but is found in the apocryphal book of enoch at enoch 1:9. most all scholars don't believe the book of enoch was actually written by enoch the 7th in line from adam but jude attributes this prophesy to him.

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  mavie

  Interestingly enough, I was reasearching this last November. Here is the link

  http://www.thomschat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7526&highlight=enoch

  I first came across the book in my new "Archaeological Study Bible". I love this book. You can typically find it in bookstores. I found this one at a Barnes and Noble in the Bible section.

  http://www.amazon.com/Archaeological-Study-Bible-Illustrated-Biblical/dp/031092605X/sr=8-1/qid=1172612724/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-7170925-2711266?ie=UTF8&s=books
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  Combatting Mind Control by Steve Hassan - with WT References

  by ithinkisee in

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  (4) emotional control.

  behavior control

  emotional control

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  mavie

  bttt, anybody have the pdf?
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  Anyone from Beaverton/Hillsboro Oregon area here?

  by lost_light06 in

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  just curious.

  seems to be a lot of mid-west, east coast and "across the pond" folks.

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  mavie

  Tigard
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  I got the 'prodigal son' treatment from my parents last night

  by mavie in

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  yep, i opened a letter and received a highlighted 5 page print out from the watchtower library cd.

  i find it somewhat insulting they think i'm lost and wasting my life.

  i'm curious to see how others have responded to this kind of treatment..

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  Thanks...I'm preparing a letter. I'm not going to play the yo-yo game. We love you, we hate you, we love you, etc. They still think I might come back, so I'll let them know once again I have no intention of ever doing that.
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  I got the 'prodigal son' treatment from my parents last night

  by mavie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, i opened a letter and received a highlighted 5 page print out from the watchtower library cd.

  i find it somewhat insulting they think i'm lost and wasting my life.

  i'm curious to see how others have responded to this kind of treatment..

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  mavie

  The 5 page article was about the prodigal son.