Posts by mavie
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32How do you deal with this feeling of emptiness?
by DeusMauzzim inthis feeling that you have seen it all, that there's nothing more in the universe to live for.... i know that it is rubbish, i know it's related to post-exit syndrome.... but how do you deal with it now?.
it's just so ridiculous to have the feeling that you're life is over at 19... but i can't help it.. help me!.
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How do you deal with this feeling of emptiness?
by DeusMauzzim inthis feeling that you have seen it all, that there's nothing more in the universe to live for.... i know that it is rubbish, i know it's related to post-exit syndrome.... but how do you deal with it now?.
it's just so ridiculous to have the feeling that you're life is over at 19... but i can't help it.. help me!.
- deus mauzzim.
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mavie
For me:
Took a vacation
Found a job I like
Discovered I wanted to go back to college...did that
I push myself to learn something new every day
I love without fear
Finally:
Don't try to find something to fill the emptiness, accept the feeling, observe it, and move on. Let life unfold before you. It's hard to do that as a dub. Have no expectations. -
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PBS show - "History of Disbelief"
by Dagney inhttp://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2007/05/a_brief_history_of_disbelief_1.html.
has anyone watched this?.
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ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!
by Terry inbefore god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?
his mind?
filled with what, actually?.
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ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!
by Terry inbefore god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?
his mind?
filled with what, actually?.
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mavie
I like cheese. Did God like cheese when there was no cheese? Does my fart smell when no one is around?
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I received a package from my mother today
by ex-nj-jw inmy dub mother sent me a package today, inside was a nwt bible, a picture of me around age 5 at an assembly - i looked miserable and my dad was holding a battery operated fan in front of me, and a letter, here is the letter.
i ask that you remember that i was 18 when i left and i'm now 42, that there is a total of 8 children in my family and there are only 2 that are still jw's, oh and that my mother is a complete nutcase!
dear nj:.
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mavie
I'm no expert, but it seems your mother is lashing out at you because she feels that she failed in raising you. She hates herself because she wasn't able to keep you in the religion. I've experienced similar emotions from my parents.
<br><br>The letter is way over the top, insulting, rude, and disgusting. It's a reflection of a lifetime of JW-ness.
<br><br>I'm afraid to say that if you want a relationship, you will have to come to terms and accept the fact your mother feels that you are unhappy and will die at the Big-A. However, insulting you by calling you an awful something is going to far. Set your boundary.
<br><br>If you don't want a relationship you can cut ties yourself. There is nothing wrong with cutting off a relationship when it becomes toxic. If I ever choose to have children, I do not plan on leaving them alone with my parents...at all. I don't want to expose my kids to that toxicity. I don't want to be exposed to it myself. -
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I received a package from my mother today
by ex-nj-jw inmy dub mother sent me a package today, inside was a nwt bible, a picture of me around age 5 at an assembly - i looked miserable and my dad was holding a battery operated fan in front of me, and a letter, here is the letter.
i ask that you remember that i was 18 when i left and i'm now 42, that there is a total of 8 children in my family and there are only 2 that are still jw's, oh and that my mother is a complete nutcase!
dear nj:.
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mavie
First of all, sorry to hear/read this.
Secondly, do you still want a relationship with your mother? Laughing at this is a great way to cope. -
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The simplest explanation of 607 BCE
by Doug Mason inif you are looking for the simplest picture that shows how the wts calculates that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, and if you want to understand basic problems with their method, this might be what you want.. http://au.geocities.com/doug_mason1940/wts_false_reasoning_for_607_bce.pdf.
(make sure that your pdf reader displays the whole page.).
doug.
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Post 1470
I see we agree the difference between you and I is in how we view the Bible. You view it as the inspired word of God, while I view it as an historical work with elements of mythology.
So the question then is this; How can we trust the Bible is inspired of God?
Take for example the flood of Noah's day. If that event happened, what explains the diversity we see around us? Biologists estimate a new species arises through evolution about once every 5,000 years. If only 'kinds' of animals were on the Ark with Noah, we should expect to see a new species arise every 120 or so *days* to account for the variety we see around us. Belief in the flood amounts to a belief in highly accelerated evolution.
I await your response.
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mavie
Started while in the Borg, continued through my exit and now looking to complete my A.S. next spring. A B.S. might be on its way.
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The simplest explanation of 607 BCE
by Doug Mason inif you are looking for the simplest picture that shows how the wts calculates that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, and if you want to understand basic problems with their method, this might be what you want.. http://au.geocities.com/doug_mason1940/wts_false_reasoning_for_607_bce.pdf.
(make sure that your pdf reader displays the whole page.).
doug.
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mavie
I fear this is a lesson in futility.
One camp holds the Bible as the primary authority on chronology. The other holds secular sources as primary.
When confronted with data that conflicts with the status quo, a biblical chronologist will reject or attack the data while a secular chronologist will examine the data and revise if necessary. I believe this to be the fundamental difference.
Scholar will hold Biblical sources above all others, conflicting secular sources *must* be wrong to him. The rest of us will revise chronology if new evidence is found.