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  JF Rutherford: Do Ya Think He Liked Attention??? (duh)

  by Open mind in

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  well this week's book study wraps up the seventh trumpet blast of revelation.

  there was even a nice neat box showing how they all were "highlighted" by something the dubs did in the 1920's.

  almost all the blasts were some dry-as-toast, "look at me" speech given by jf rutherford at various conventions.

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  Thanks Leolaia
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  So who went out in field service on Christmas?

  by mavie in

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  2. friends

  my congregation would have a special service day on all holidays, including christmas.

  in order to avoid knocking to early on homeowners doors we would meet at 10am instead of 9:30am.

  we would always have the hardcore group ready ard raring to go on dec 25th.

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  My congregation would have a special service day on all holidays, including Christmas. In order to avoid knocking to early on homeowners doors we would meet at 10am instead of 9:30am. We would always have the hardcore group ready ard raring to go on Dec 25th. I never went out of respect, or was that fear?
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  Reading between the lines in the January 2008 "Our Kingdom Ministry"

  by TooBad TooSad in

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  2. scandals

  i like to read the km to see what the wtbts is saying, and then to think about what they really mean.. information appears in the km when problem need to be addressed in the organization.

  the article on.

  the front page "make the most of your time in the ministry" was insightful to me.

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  6) stopping for coffee break at 10:45 and taking 45 minutes, then quitting because it's 11:30, saying you will make an RV on the way home.
  
  This was normal in my Kingdom Hall. Everybody began to arrive at the local grocery store where they had coffee shop and a few tables in the store around 10:45 to 11:00. We would get about 30 people in a small 4 table sitting area plus some overflow into the grocery store aisles. People would begin to leave around 11:15, most would be gone by 11:30. The majority of the JW's, including me, tried to stretch the break as long as possible. I tried to arrive at 10:45 and leave at 11:30.
  
  I felt embarrassed that our group would inevitably be loud and obnoxious in the grocery store. I routinely tried to find a stop out of the way where shoppers would not notice me.
  
  Our KH's practice of taking 30-45 minute breaks was the topic of a local needs talk one week. The elder giving the talk admonished us to take only 10 minutes and that we should not be reporting our break time as field service. Some tried to make an effort but after a month we were back to taking 30-45 minute breaks. It was the only thing that made service bearable for me. I suspect the same is true for many others.
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  Are there any former Circuit Overseers on this site?

  by Robert7 in

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  i've seen responses from a number of elders, but have any co's become enlightened?

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  bookmarked for later ingestion.
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  Great Jefferson Quote

  by mavie in

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  they [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes.

  and they believe rightly; for i have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

  but this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion.

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  They [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion.
  
  -Thomas Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, Sept. 23, 1800
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  Part 2:The Elders Return, Made Decision To Disfellowship Us On Grounds Of..

  by Lady Liberty in

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  dear friends.... "happy tuesday!

  " well the saga continues!

  i thought we had seen the last of the elders last friday night as most have you are familiar with the story.

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  Congrats LL and BP. You took control of the situation and let em have it. I salute you.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  Great idea Tuesday. He is hiding behind the Bible.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  O my GOD!! What to do! He played the Bible card! He knows I'm in cahoots with apostates!!!!!!
  
  Mavie:
  
  This will by my last email response to you. I have no desire to respond to your "questions" by email. It is obvious that you are in contact with and getting advice and direction from those who disagree with Jehovah's Witnesses. It is also obvious that you have doubts about the existence of God, faith in the Bible and the need to live by Bible standards. The primary purpose of the meeting is to restore you. As Jude 17-23 states:
  
  "As for YOU, beloved ones, call to mind the sayings that have been previously spoken by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, how they used to say to YOU: "In the last time there will be ridiculers, proceeding according to their own desires for ungodly things." These are the ones that make separations, animalistic [men], not having spirituality. But YOU, beloved ones, by building up yourselves on YOUR most holy faith, and praying with holy spirit, keep yourselves in God’s love, while YOU are waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view. Also, continue showing mercy to some that have doubts; save [them] by snatching [them] out of the fire. But continue showing mercy to others, doing so with fear, while YOU hate even the inner garment that has been stained by the flesh."
  
  We look forward to seeing you on December xxxx at 8:00 A.M.
  
  
  
  
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  2. friends

  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  Thanks searcher. Can a mod please remove the link from his post though? We know that the WT monitors this site.
  
  Gracias.
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  My response to an Elder!

  by mavie in

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  2. friends

  elder 1,. .

  i will be in town on xxxxxx, december xxx.

  i'm sure you would agree that my everlasting life is an important enough reason to revisit some of the outstanding questions i posed last year to be addressed.

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  My response:
  
  Hi Elder 1,
  
  Thank you for the clarification. I will just use the copy of the Flock book that is available to me with updates through 2006. I was hoping to see a newer copy.
  
  Is there any chance my questions will be answered? I hope that they are as the answers will affect my personal faith immensely.
  
  For example, why do WT publications continually misquote prominent scientists to support their position? Are there no scientists who do support it? The frequency and nature of the misquotes and misrepresentations cannot be chalked up to imperfect humans.
  
  Some of those the WT have misquoted have noticed this and exposed it in subsequent works. Both scientists mentioned in my previous email have done so.
  
  Please, do you have nothing to say about this? I found it embarrassing to continue to support a belief system that seems to collapse at the first hurdle, sincere questions coupled with critical examination. For a religion that prides itself on teaching people the truth and drawing others out with questions, why is a simple question like this ignored?
  
  Your silence speaks volumes.
  
  Mavie