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  Glowball Worming: Is the science settled?

  by BurnTheShips in

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  it looks like the scientific "consensus" is not really there, is it?.

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  mavie

  BTS, the science is settled. Special interests do not want you to think that it is.
  
  "In a candid memo about political strategy for Republican leaders, pollster Frank Luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "Should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly. Therefore, you need to continue to make the lack of scientific certainty a primary issue in the debate..." (The Assault On Reason, Al Gore, pg 200) (Frank Luntz, as quoted by Isaac Chotiner, "Frank Luntz's Tarnished Legacy,", The New Republic, January 29, 2007.)
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  Society's latest stance on Evolution in Jan 1, 2008 WT (bonus quote mining)

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my parents gave me the latest "public edition" watchtower and it has 4-page festival of circular logic and hypocritical quote-mining entitled "is evolution compatible with the bible?

  the opening salvo is golden, because they go and shoot themselves in the foot with it later on: "is it possible that god used evolution to create men from beasts?

  did god direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans?

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  mavie

  Thank you for the Behe link at TallkOrigins Hillary. The information will be useful.
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  Society's latest stance on Evolution in Jan 1, 2008 WT (bonus quote mining)

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my parents gave me the latest "public edition" watchtower and it has 4-page festival of circular logic and hypocritical quote-mining entitled "is evolution compatible with the bible?

  the opening salvo is golden, because they go and shoot themselves in the foot with it later on: "is it possible that god used evolution to create men from beasts?

  did god direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans?

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  mavie

  Thank you for the Behe link at TallkOrigins Hillary. The information will be useful.
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  Society's latest stance on Evolution in Jan 1, 2008 WT (bonus quote mining)

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my parents gave me the latest "public edition" watchtower and it has 4-page festival of circular logic and hypocritical quote-mining entitled "is evolution compatible with the bible?

  the opening salvo is golden, because they go and shoot themselves in the foot with it later on: "is it possible that god used evolution to create men from beasts?

  did god direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans?

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  mavie

  "Although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine. It teaches a philosophy of life and an attitude toward God. -- pg 16

  Then this:

  "The Bible stresses the importance of evidence when it defines faith." -- pg 17

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  Actually WT, evolution is a theory not a religious doctrine.

  That is: "A logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in oppostion."

  Did you catch that WT? Here it is a little different.

  "Scientific theories are essentially the equivalent of what everyday speech refers to as facts."

  Sorry WT, try again.
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  Society's latest stance on Evolution in Jan 1, 2008 WT (bonus quote mining)

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my parents gave me the latest "public edition" watchtower and it has 4-page festival of circular logic and hypocritical quote-mining entitled "is evolution compatible with the bible?

  the opening salvo is golden, because they go and shoot themselves in the foot with it later on: "is it possible that god used evolution to create men from beasts?

  did god direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans?

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  mavie

  Nova recently aired a great program about Intelligent Design. In it, Michael Behe is made to look like the fool he is. Maybe the WT should have watched this before printing the Jan 1st edition.

  Watch it here.

  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html
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  Society's latest stance on Evolution in Jan 1, 2008 WT (bonus quote mining)

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my parents gave me the latest "public edition" watchtower and it has 4-page festival of circular logic and hypocritical quote-mining entitled "is evolution compatible with the bible?

  the opening salvo is golden, because they go and shoot themselves in the foot with it later on: "is it possible that god used evolution to create men from beasts?

  did god direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans?

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  mavie

  Another "gem" from the article:

  "Evolution presents modern man as an improving animal. The Bible presents modern man as the degenerating descendant of a perfect man." - pg 15

  Not really. Richard Dawkins entitled one of his books "The Blind Watchmaker". In it, Dawkins explains how the mechanism of natural selection can explain the complex adaptations of organisms to their environment. The subjective label 'improving' can only mean one thing to Dawkins and other evolutionists, being an adaptation which helps the organism survive longer and thus have a greater chance of procreating.

  The WT uses the term 'improving' in the context of Bible history. In the time of Adam men routinely lived to ages of 600 plus years. "Modern man" can only live 70 or 80 years according to the Psalms. The WT would measure 'improvment' in the number and quality of years a person lived. Dawkins would use the term 'improving' quite differently.

  Sorry WT, try again.
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  Society's latest stance on Evolution in Jan 1, 2008 WT (bonus quote mining)

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my parents gave me the latest "public edition" watchtower and it has 4-page festival of circular logic and hypocritical quote-mining entitled "is evolution compatible with the bible?

  the opening salvo is golden, because they go and shoot themselves in the foot with it later on: "is it possible that god used evolution to create men from beasts?

  did god direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans?

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  mavie

  I found a link to a scanned pdf. The first link doesn't work anymore but some of the others do.
  
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/146012/1.ashx
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  I have a theory. Please take my poll!

  by changeling in

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  2. friends

  i'd like you all to tell me 2 or 3 things:.

  1- were you raised a witness or not?.

  2-if you were, was your family very "theocratic" or not so much?.

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  mavie

  1 - yes
  2 - theocratic
  3 - atheist
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  Society's latest stance on Evolution in Jan 1, 2008 WT (bonus quote mining)

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my parents gave me the latest "public edition" watchtower and it has 4-page festival of circular logic and hypocritical quote-mining entitled "is evolution compatible with the bible?

  the opening salvo is golden, because they go and shoot themselves in the foot with it later on: "is it possible that god used evolution to create men from beasts?

  did god direct bacteria to develop into fish and then to continue developing through reptiles and mammals, so that finally a race of apes became humans?

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  mavie

  Wow, would it be possible to get a scanned copy of the article\watchtower? I could use this in my upcoming JC.
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  So who went out in field service on Christmas?

  by mavie in

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  2. friends

  my congregation would have a special service day on all holidays, including christmas.

  in order to avoid knocking to early on homeowners doors we would meet at 10am instead of 9:30am.

  we would always have the hardcore group ready ard raring to go on dec 25th.

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  mavie

  I'm just waiting for my own little JW to knock on my door tomorrow. Please Jehovah?