Posts by pallemar

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Educate this fool

by Watchtower-Free in

this reporter is buying into the watchtower propaganda .heres his/her email.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/215022121_jehovah_witnesses_dispel_myths__discuss_religion_at_lyndhurst_kingdom_hall.html?c=y&page=2.

Jehovahs Witnesses under fire in Denmark

by pallemar in

http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/andre_sprog/english/2013/07/25/132435.htm.

and today in another newspaper, they addet this picture .

http://jyllands-posten.dk/opinion/?dt=true&articleid=5767677.

pallemar

http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Andre_sprog/English/2013/07/25/132435.htm

and today in another newspaper, they addet this picture

http://jyllands-posten.dk/opinion/?dt=true&articleId=5767677

Text under the picture :Witnesses at risk of being convicted of racism after fierce verbal attacks against Former Members of JW on this year's summer conference.

the man in the back sayes: Are you sure that it is the good god, That one Represent?!!

And the politisions are begining to talk about more control with diferents religions.

http://www.b.dk/politiko/partier-vil-have-mere-kontrol-med-trossamfund

it in danisk, but try to use google translate :P

here the leader of JW in denmark say, they are just citing the bibel. but of course it is a lie, Roskilde Sickness is not writen in the bible! as they sait about former members of jehovah withness.

http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2013/07/25/151958.htm

Sorry some of the material is in danish.

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I'm having some Fun with "hate" your broder with JW

by pallemar in

wel the reson to jw shunning politiks, is what you can't have any contack to a broder who comments "sin" well, then what about this then ?

1 john 4:20 if anyone says, i love god, and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love god whom he has not seen.. 1 john 2:9 whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.. .

and the wathtower magazine, say you have to hate your "former" broder, in a bibel understanding ;).

pallemar

More WT double standard. For such a supposedly loving group, they sure show a lot of hate. The worst thing is that they pretend that showing the hate is actually showing love.

yeah, thanks for a repley :)

yeah it is a double standard.

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I'm having some Fun with "hate" your broder with JW

by pallemar in

wel the reson to jw shunning politiks, is what you can't have any contack to a broder who comments "sin" well, then what about this then ?

1 john 4:20 if anyone says, i love god, and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love god whom he has not seen.. 1 john 2:9 whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.. .

and the wathtower magazine, say you have to hate your "former" broder, in a bibel understanding ;).

pallemar

well what i'm trying to say is, it don't fit toghether ;)

but all who is in here have all ready reason this out

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I'm having some Fun with "hate" your broder with JW

by pallemar in

wel the reson to jw shunning politiks, is what you can't have any contack to a broder who comments "sin" well, then what about this then ?

1 john 4:20 if anyone says, i love god, and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love god whom he has not seen.. 1 john 2:9 whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.. .

and the wathtower magazine, say you have to hate your "former" broder, in a bibel understanding ;).

pallemar

i forgot to show where they write you have to hate.

“ Godly hate is a powerful protection against wrongdoing… Are we doing that? …Apostates are included among those who show their hatred of Jehovah by revolting against him. Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. …Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work. … a Christian must hate (in the Biblical sense of the word) those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness .”— The Watchtower, October 1, 1993, p. 19

and Jehovah witness use this verse in the bible.

1 Corinthians 5:11

English Standard Version (ESV)

11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.

well my own understanding is, that people who leave JW, don't bear any name of broder.

so here is no reason to shun them, but it is the JW, who keep them in the name.

becourse they will not give them religious freedom.

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I'm having some Fun with "hate" your broder with JW

by pallemar in

wel the reson to jw shunning politiks, is what you can't have any contack to a broder who comments "sin" well, then what about this then ?

1 john 4:20 if anyone says, i love god, and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love god whom he has not seen.. 1 john 2:9 whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.. .

and the wathtower magazine, say you have to hate your "former" broder, in a bibel understanding ;).

pallemar

wel the reson to JW shunning politiks, is what you can't have any contack to a broder who comments "sin" well, then what about this then ? ;)

1 John 4:20

If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

1 John 2:9

Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.

and the Wathtower magazine, say you have to hate your "former" broder, in a bibel understanding ;)
so as i see it, here is no way out for JW.

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Did the Watchtower almost just go bust?

by TimothyT in

taken from the watchtower media website today:.

maybe im reading this wrong!!!.

http://www.jw-media.org/fra/20110630.htm.

pallemar

However, there is no final ruling yet as the judges did not rule on the demand to annull the taxation, restore the amounts seized — some 4.5 million euros plus interest — and pay damages and expenses.

http://www.canada.com/life/French+Jehovah+Witnesses+hinders+rights+Court/5032902/story.html?id=5032902

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Did the Watchtower almost just go bust?

by TimothyT in

taken from the watchtower media website today:.

maybe im reading this wrong!!!.

http://www.jw-media.org/fra/20110630.htm.

pallemar

strange how they hide under the "Beast" then they want to ;)

I thouth they saw him as evil ;) well i think here shoulde be addet some more to Human rigths, if you want to be protected by them, you need to follow them.

it is strange how WT can violate them on so many fronts, and then be protected by them.

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Danish article about shunning. Very interesting.

by worried in

i just found a danish article in "jyllands posten" (yea, the ones who printed drawings of muhammed once).

i hope that my translation is ok, otherwise, please tell me if there is somewhere you dont understand it.. .

jehovahs witnesses to be investigatedmembers are encouraged by the leaders, to cease contact with those leaving the society.. .

pallemar

Thanks all :)

the fun part is, what in the news paper artikel, Erik Jørgesen haven't researchet this well, so he say it him slef, that they have to disfellow people who don't want to follow the rules.

so he allmost made all the hard work for us ;)

if you want to follow the case, you can see it here http://194.255.119.21/dokumenter/tingdok.aspx?/samling/20101/spoergsmaal/s1899/index.htm

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Danish article about shunning. Very interesting.

by worried in

i just found a danish article in "jyllands posten" (yea, the ones who printed drawings of muhammed once).

i hope that my translation is ok, otherwise, please tell me if there is somewhere you dont understand it.. .

jehovahs witnesses to be investigatedmembers are encouraged by the leaders, to cease contact with those leaving the society.. .

pallemar

WT are a aproven religion in denmark, this gives them some tax reliese, from ground taxes and so on.

https://www.borger.dk/Emner/samfund-og-rettigheder/kirke-og-tro/Sider/anerkendte-trossamfund.aspx

We have been a bit confusen on, how they have gotten this status in Denmark, so Bille startet to researh, and found out, they have to follow the Human rigths to be aproven religion in denmark, this they clearly don't follow, on many fiels.

http://www.familiestyrelsen.dk/fileadmin/user_upload/Trossamfund/Vejledende_retningslinjer_trossamfund.pdf

and after the Movie " Worlds Apart " Poul Dal get contaktet from newspapers from time to time, and this time it was "Jyllands posten" and they made a long artikel about the supbjekt. and some politicians are now interested in reashearching this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY_8wNAX2Ek

http://jp.dk/indland/article2466168.ece

so now we are trying to find profes of how they recoment people to shun own famelies out, then the elders say so.

If WT lose this, I think JW have to pay 10 times more per moth, to be i JW, and they even have to remove some kingdom halls any way ;) and my hope is some wil baile out and say "nah to expensive" ;) one of the good things about a higth ground tax :p

any way the less WT get in monnie, the less they have to fund the mindkontrol ;) so it is a win win situation, if WT lose this.

here they are on tv 13 mins in, if you can see it in your region? http://www.dr.dk/DR1/Aftenshowet/Klip+fra+Aftenshowet/20101217143204.htm#/11983