Posts by poodlehead

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Do you learn from negative people?

by free2beme in

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i heard once a comment or quote that said something to the affect,.

"do learn from negative people, is to lower yourself to their thinking and to learn from their vast years of mediocrity".

with that said, i think it pays sometimes to reflect on who we listen too in our life, and more important, who we strive to please and be life.

poodlehead

I don't know if you agree with me but women tend to be more negative about themselves much more than men. So I tend to try and stay balanced with people who are possitive. It is really easy for me to get myself down. I suffer from depression and tend to lock into negative things about myself.

I admire men who's gut is hidding there belt buckle, they have no hair or butt and think they are the sexiest thing in the world. Women don't do this, we gain 5 pounds and want to hide from the world. Now some women are comfortable in there own bodies, but a lot of us are not..

My husband has a terrible problem of telling me daily that I have to loose weight. He also includes himself in that. But I just don't want to hear it. I have told him this and told him this. He does it for about a week and then starts again. Sometimes we just can't exscape negative people.

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I need advice

by poodlehead in

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i have a 14 year old son who lives with his father a jw and his step mother jw who grew up as a witness.

my ex-husband is fairly well off but his father and family have done very well for them selves.

the way they pass money down is into the next of kin and when that person dies the next down the line gets it.

poodlehead

I have a 14 year old son who lives with his father a JW and his step mother JW who grew up as a witness. My Ex-husband is fairly well off but his father and family have done very well for them selves. The way they pass money down is into the next of kin and when that person dies the next down the line gets it. So the money that my sons grandfather has will go to his father and then to him when he dies. His grandfather is not a Witness, but tries to understand. What I am worried about is I can see that my son once 18 or maybe sooner if he decides to move in with me, will leave JW's. He want's to go to College, and become a Movie director. Not exactly what witness kids dream of, or are allowed to dream about. IfA he does do this he is likely to get nothing of his grandfathers money. I have tried to get my son to tell his grandfather that his father does not want him to go to college, but he is scared it will get back to his dad. They are getting up there, and I am worried..

And the last thing I would want to see happen is my husband dying and it all going to his new wife. Which could happen. I have a hard time talking to my ex. Can anyone think of some idea.

If you think I am worring for nothing and my Ex-husband would never dis-inherit my son, just for leaving the JW's tell me so.

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WAS THERE ANY MENTAL INSTABILITY IN YOUR CONGREGATION?

by badboy in

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any takers?

poodlehead

Everyone I knew was mentally unstable. But so is a lot of people who are not JW's. There were a lot of people who needed others. At one time we had a group of women form a little group who had been raped as children. The were trying to help each other and were asked and then told to stop meeting together. The elders told them it was not constructive and they were becoming a sect. As someone who also was molested I thought this would be great, but men who couldn't possible understand must know better. Some left and others gave in.

How sad. Raped as a child and then by your religion.

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Hubbie And I Seen A Ghost!

by Legolas in

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yep that's right!

but i should add that i/we can only say that with about 99.9% certainty.

here's what happened....

poodlehead

All right here is my story. I had meet my husband and we had dated a few times when things got hot and heavy. I had a good feeling about him from the start and he felt the same way. So on our first night of passion he said he loved me. I didn't answer, I was dumb founded. The next day I called a girlfriend and told her how wonderful it was but that he said,"I love you." It was in the act and was almost a wisper. She advised me to let it go. Some men in passion say stupid things. But the next time I saw him he said very serously that he loved me. I had thought it over and by god I loved him too so I told him so.

Well time went by and one day we were remembering our first few dates and he says to me. "I remember the first night we made love. It was so wonderful...But I can't believe you said you loved me. That really scared me. I even told my friend about it. She asked me if I loved you and I said I guess I do. So the next time I saw you I answered you."

I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I told him"No you said I love you to me that night. I even told my girlfriend." After a few minutes we both called our friends and both remembered the call the next day and the conversations were almost word for word. Both friends remember us telling them that during sex we heard I love you. But didn't answer back.

Later I realized my Mothers ashes were in the room. Had she been the whisper we had heard? Thinking it was each other. That is what I like to believe. So that is my ghost story.

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Whole congregation members disfellowshiped?

by Sacchiel in

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has there ever been such a thing where the entire congregation is df'd?.

sacchiel

poodlehead

The closest thing I ever saw was a mass DFing. There was a witness party that had adults attending and things got out of hand. Three congragations were involved, but kids from all over the area came. From what I heard it was quite a bash. Underage drinking, drugs and sex. The cops came and threaten to arrest people if they didn't leave. It was so overful with witness kids that the whole street was filled. Almost all were disfellowshiped. I would guess 50 or maybe more.

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Planting seeds of doubt or helping someone break mind control

by thecarpenter in

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helping someone break mind control.

how can you effectively help a witness break the watchtowers grip on their minds?

as a layman, i would think that encouraging someone to examine the history of their beliefs would be one way but many people don't like to do research.

poodlehead

I know with myself it took a long time before I would listen to anything negative about the organization. I was completetly brainwashed into believing that if I did, I was comitting the ultamate sin against Jehovah. So I was inactive for 8 years before I came to this site. And I still was looking over my shoulder, expecting to get zaped by God. What I found here has saved my life.

Keep asking her questions like. "Would it be wrong for a JW to be involved politicaly? Well how about belonging to the U.N., what about that? Then why is the jw sociaty a member? Is it okay for them, but not there members?" Don't get angry and don't acuse just ask. Also showing her other organizations that have great love will make her see she is missing out. Maybe you could join some sort of NON religious help group and ask her to come. I know in our neiborhood a lot of people feed the homeless and it is run by the city, where people of all religions get together to help.

It's a fine line to open her mind but not make her think you are trying to lead her away. Remember anyone who is not with Jehovah is part of Satans society in there minds. You preasure her, then she know Satan is doing it and she confirms she is working for God. It is a pain in the ass to try and bring someone away.

Good luck

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Divorce for emotional abuse?

by somebodylovesme in

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because of a recent family situation (always a good time!

), i've been in a debate with a jw relative about whether the society permits divorce (without remarriage) where there is emotional abuse.

this relative swears the literature has said that a person can leave her spouse where there is emotional abuse, but that she cannot remarry.

poodlehead

I knew a women who did not have grounds for devorice. But her husband would not go to meeting and was just not there for her. She got a devorice and was not counceled for it. However and this is the best part. He left the JW's and began dating. He has had many girlfriends but he is so angry with the JW's for there treatment of him, he will not tell his Ex-wife that he has had sex with anyone. It has been over 7 years and she is still single. She has no proof that he is sleeping with these women so what can she do, she must take his word for it.

I wish I would have thought about that when I got a devorice.

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Could the "shocking" announcement be about blood issue?

by WingCommander in

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i've been reading the random threads lately about the "shocking" announcement that is to be made at the end of september, and i'd like to throw my 2 pence in.

now, we all know that the wtbs has made several failed predictions, and i think we can all agree that they have probably learned their lesson from 1975's fiasco.

most at bethel are old enough to remember the fallout for years after 1975. so to me, i think it's safe to say that they aren't going to be claiming the end is this year.

poodlehead

Every time I caught wind of a great shocking new thing on the horizon. It was so minor that it wasn't even worth remembering. I do remember the last one. Was something about 140000 were having a lot of fillins. So the end may be a little farther away then they think. Stupid

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jws celebrate birthdays?!

by dobbie in

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i was speaking to a friend last night, trying to explain why i don't go to meetings etc,(waste of time though she just can't seem to understand my point whatever i say), anyway she said as long as i don't d'a myself she can still speak to me.

she said they only d'f you if you commit a gross sin.

i refuted this saying if they knew i didn't agree with some of the teachings, sent a fathers day card etc and you weren't sorry they'd get rid of you.

poodlehead

I knew of one family that on there kids birthdays they would get out the family album and look at pictures of the years gone by and then she would do something special with them or buy them something. No Happy Birthday cake or rapping paper. The elders knew it, but they were unable to make her understand that this was the same. So I guess if you are stuppid and you frustrate the elders to death you can get away with it. A lot has to be your attitude. Remember Michael Jackson was counceled after doing Thriller the Video but was never disfellowshiped. Finally he removed himself.

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What little things get you upset?

by JH in

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i get upset very fast, if a product i use since years gets discontinued.

gee, if the weatherman says it's 75 degrees outside and i know it's 80, i'll phone him and tell him to get a better thermometer or put glasses on.

often i feel like writting to the mayor and ask him what is he waiting for to pave the streets of the whole city.

poodlehead

Dirty people. I work in a jewelry store and people bring there jewelry in to be cleaned. Once I had a ring with a bug in it. But the most discusting story was one of a couple who came in and the lady took out her earings to be cleaned. He man noticing how discusting and caked with hair stray and pussy ear juice was appauled. He took the earing from her and said,"What is wrong with you. You can't give her those like that." Then he put them in his mouth and sucked out the juices. THEN handed them to the clerk. I would have gaged and walked away if it were me. But she cleaned them.

Unbelievable.