Posts by freedom96

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Long prayers at the hall

by JH in

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in every congregation there is always a brother who gives a marathon prayer.

in my congregation there was a brother whose prayers were so long that i decided to time his prayer with my watch.

it lasted about 3-4 minutes.

freedom96

I wonder how many people actually would listen to what was being said in the prayer. I always was thinking about other things.

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I'm the Dad of a Silent Lamb...

by CoonDawg in

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i never thought that they could be this dumb.

i called an elder in the cong.

where my daughter's abuser lives.

freedom96

I cannot imagine what is going through your mind right now. I would be livid, as I pretty much am just reading your story. I would be going nuts.

Anyways, best wishes, go get them. Every one of them, and please keep us posted as the events occur.

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POSSBILE TACTIC FOR ELDERS VISITS

by Mary in

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an "inactive" friend of mine (hasn't gone to the hall for about 11 years now) was visted by the elders on yep, you guessed it: christmas day.

they asked her the standard questions: do you still view yourself as a jw?

do you believe this is god's organization?

It is human nature to be scared when threatened. When you threaten an elder with a lawsuit, you are attacking him personally. He probably doesn't care what you do with the WTS, but when you mention him personally, that changes everything.

An elder doesn't want to be sued. Even if the suit is totally crazy, he will still have to get a lawyer, and defend it. It will cost him money, lots of it, and probably doesn't have it to spend. And do you think for a second that the WTS is going to back him up and pay his legal bills?? No way!

If you are in front of the lawyers, and can stand up to them, then I would not have any problem threatening them personally with a lawsuit. But know what you are talking about first. That means educating yourself on what laws you have to base this on. Don't go spouting off something untrue or unreasonable.

Be interesting to see what most of the elders reactions are if people try this. I do believe it is time for all who have left, to stand up for themselves, not to bow down to their supposed power.

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What Do You Expect From People?

by minimus in

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do you think that you expect too much from people?

do you often get disappointed when expectations are not realized?edited by - minimus on 1 january 2003 10:28:52.

freedom96

I expect integrity and honesty. It doesn't always happen of course. I think people as a whole are very predictable.

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Background of those leaving

by freedom96 in

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who are the majority that are leaving?.

are they those who grew up as witnesses, and this generation realized that this is not the true religion and leave?.

or maybe a witness who had a position of power, such as an elder or ms, or maybe had some insight from bethel, and saw too much?.

freedom96

Who are the majority that are leaving?

Are they those who grew up as witnesses, and this generation realized that this is not the true religion and leave?

Or maybe a witness who had a position of power, such as an elder or MS, or maybe had some insight from bethel, and saw too much?

Or, maybe the JW who got in because of 1975 and finally decided to leave, seeing that nothing ever happened?

Or is it witnesses who are just too tired to do all that is required of them in this religion?

Maybe it is because of freedom of knowledge such as the books and internet?

Any guesses?

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Is the USA a bully?

by Robdar in

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i was watching the news last night.

the latest word from the war front is that we should be able to peaceably work out our differences with north korea.

as humiliating as it will be for us to kiss north korea's ass, we will do so because they do have the ability to nuke our west coast.

freedom96

The idea behind attacking Saddam is to get to him BEFORE he gets his hands on nukes. One day I think we will want to thank those who made the decision to rid the world of Saddam and those like him. If we didn't, maybe we would not be around to enjoy our children or grandchildren, or other friends and family.

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Are elders more spiritual

by JH in

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are elders more spiritual or just better qualified to teach?

does the watchtower choose their leaders for their spirituality or their leadership?

freedom96

They are picked from those who are the most loyal, and who kisses ass the most. Then they can be allowed into their little circle.

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WT Abuse Article, Boston Globe

by HoChiMin in

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chech out link,.

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/001/metro/suit_charges_church_coverup+.shtml.

suit charges church coverup.

freedom96

I would love to see the WTS publicly humiliated. Too bad it has to be this situation. The more the public as a whole understands the WTS policies, the better.

Maybe this will disgust some inside the WTS too.

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