Posts by lovelylil

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

lovelylil

It doesn't matter what the disclaimer says for I didn't care what happened on the six screens call. The reason I got so upset was that Rick set me up during his house church and had shiela bring up the johnnie incident to confront me. That is just not right!

I told him it was not appropriate but he persisted saying we can talk about it. I started to cry because I realized it was a complete set up and I felt ambushed and was taken off guard. I thought I could trust Rick and I was only questioning Johnnie because I had concern he was taken advantage of Ricks naiveness.

Anyway, Rick knew I was crying but never called to opologize or see if I was alright. I think he was offended that I did not believe in his fake johnnie and his aim was to protect the followers he already has. You know Rick, you are not supposed to make people followers of Rick or johnnie. You are supposed to bring them to Jesus Christ.

Maybe instead of trying to pastor a church you should actually attend one for a while and be educated on true orthodox christianity first. And maybe take some bible classes yourself, then you will have gained some experience to pastor people. It is obviously not your thing. You are still learning how to be a Christian yourself. Heck I have been out of the WT longer then you and I am still learning too. I think it was a mistake to make a church, why not just a bible study?

Maybe the power went to your head a little bit. I am trying to admonish you as another believer in Christ. You must treat people with LOVE at all times and what you did was not loving in any way. All this could have been said over the phone and not on this forum but you did not want to call me to discuss it. I think ultimately you do not care about the people who leave the WT, what you care about is yourself and your own agenda. Its no wonder most ex jws who go to your church for a while eventually move on.

Now, its time for me to move on to.

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Do people praying out loud in public disturb you?

by Mad Sweeney in

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i am sitting here in a study lounge.

when i got here around 15 minutes ago the only ones here were two young ladies and a young man, sitting around a table with their eyes closed.

the young man was talking.

lovelylil

Ditto Matthew 6:5, I find it obnoxious. Peace, Lilly

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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friends

this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

lovelylil

Yes James Absolutey!! I am done with Rick and his church and the six screens. I really was only on there to hear barbara anderson. I lingered because I couldn't sleep and wanted to hear johnnie. I never heard him before. But I will not go on anymore. I learned my lesson, it has a bad spirit. Also it occured to me that johnnie is a young kid compared to those on there that were speaking with him, But yet they were hanging onto his every words as if they idolized him.

And YET Johnnie did not say anything of substance whatsover. Nor did he give any information except his own opinion. I think PC is right when he told me last night that Johnnie is totally made up and that Rick knows it. He is using this to get viewers to come to his six screens calls. He is a desperate man on a sinking ship..................trying not to drown himself. But I think he may have done that already.

I took the links for both sites off my blog page so I am not sending my friends to this ravanous wolf. The guy on the call who defended me calling the others "a pack of dogs", was correct. But I would say wolves would be more appropriate.

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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friends

this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

lovelylil

I just stopped in to check my mail when I saw this statement made by Rick Fearon:

As far as some plot to destoy and gang up on lovely Lil on our church call is ludicrous and unfounded. I called Lil Sunday before church and she did not elaborate on what happened on The late Sat. night with Sheila show. I was not totally aware of what took place untill Monday morning when preparing to up-load the call to the web-site.

Rick,

I am calling you out for be a COMPLETE LIAR! You called me at 11 am but I was out. We never actually spoke on the phone until after the sunday church service. I called into your church at 1pm and stayed on the entire service. I read 2 scriptures. At the end of the service, you asked Sheila who was on the phone, what happened with Johnnie last night? When she started saying someone insulted him and he left, I spoke up and said she was talking about me. I told her and YOU that it was an inapproprate time to talk about that, that is because there were people present who had nothing to do with the conference call. When she persisted, I started to cry and hung up the phone.

Ray is correct It was a COMPLETE SETUP becuase you did not like me questioning your "bethel" insider. Why do we make this claim? Because you knew full well what happened on the call and brought it up to call me out on it and embarrass me in church. That is why you asked shiela specifically, what happened with johnnie last night?, in front of the church group. You had the entire thing planned.

How else do I know you are lying about not knowing what happened during the call? I left you a message about what happened at 10 am Sunday Morning, but missed your return call. I clearly told you we had a problem on the call the previous night. And JOE your friend on six screens clearly says ON THE CONFERENCE CALL "I just spoke to Rick and he is very upset by what is happening here tonight". Or did you edit that out?

In addition the FIRST THING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH before Shiela said anything about johnnie was this "lil, I know you want to see the proof of johnnie's id card, I will contact you to send it", - If Rick did not edit this out it will be on the upperroom conference call as well. So I am asking you now Rick;

IF YOU WENT TO BED AND DID NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED INVOLVING JOHNNIE UNTIL MONDAY, HOW IN THE WORLD DID YOU KNOW THAT I ASKED JOHNNIE IF IT WAS OK FOR RICK TO SHARE THE ID CARD WITH ME FOR I WANTED TO SEE IT MYSELF? How were you able to say this to me on Sunday Rick?

You are an unbelievable Liar, NOT A CHRISTIAN. And NOT LOVING in any way. For "love does not look out for its best interests". You NEVER ONCE actually spoke to me about the cconference call so to say you did but I did not ellaborate is total BULLSHIT. Why would I not ellaborate if I specifically called you about it? and I was so upset that I cried?

You are piece of work Rick. you were told what happened by me, shiela and joe and maybe johnnie too, and yet you are sticking to your lie that you did not know until monday?

We were in fact waiting for your call on Sunday. My husband was ready with a few choice words for you, but you are a coward. I was so upset by what happened because I though you were trustworthy and it hurt my feelings so much I litterally cried all afternoon and evening on Sunday and most of last night too. congratulations you made a lady cry. And you showed no concern for me whatsover. You were only concerned with protecting your image with your cult following.

Even after I hung up obviously crying and upset, you never called. I have IN FACT NOT SPOKEN TO RICK EVEN ONCE ABOUT THIS SINCE IT HAPPENED. HE IS A LIAR, Which as a "christian" means you are alligning yourself with your father, the devil. Also a liar.

The many posters on this board that you put down called me, emailed me and pm'd me with their concern. But Rick who pastors a church and has a MINISTRY to help ex jw's to Jesus had no concerned for me at all. Do you think you are automatically a Christian because you put a sign on your home saying you are one? You cannot call yourself a Christian UNLESS you do what the Lord says;

Matthew 9:13
But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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friends

this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

lovelylil

pc,

Before I take my break tomarrow. btw I sent you a pm. Let me just say this, although I am a Christian, I agree with you. I do not believe someone like Rick should mix his church with his anti JW tactics.

When I first went to visit his group my entire family went. Both my kids and my hubby were very turned off by the ranting against the WT. They went to "church" to be upbuilt and get closer to God and not to constantly hear about the WT. It was a turnoff and so we stopped going for a long period of time.

I don't think Rick realizes he is repelling ex jws and that is why they are not streaming into his little house church. His constant bashing of the WT is aligning him with the same exact spirit of the WT.

So although we don't share the same beliefs I agree with you. Many leave the WT and are not interested in Christianity any longer and that is their right. Those of us who still are need to be senstive to how others feel. No one wants to be constantly preached at. If we all wanted that we would of stayed in the tower. Heck we are all burned out spiritually after such an experince. I am still recovering myself and its been 7 years.

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To the Houshold of God, Israel... and those who go with...

by AGuest in

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may you all have peace!.

for the first time in close to 15 years, i have not been compelled by our lord to issue an "invitation" on this board regarding the upcoming wtbts "memorial" event.

for many years, i have posted exhortations and reminders as to what our lord said about those "in union" with him and what it takes to be in such union.

lovelylil

Any who receive Jesus can be born again. You can go to him, confess your sins, repent and turn away from sin, ask him to send the spirit to you and he will. Then begin your new walk in Christ. The Holy Spirit will teach you and lead you into all truth and you will KNOW that the spirit of God lives in you!

John 1:12-13

12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God

If you believe in Christ's name and recieve his spirit, you have the right to partake at the memorial. Your everlasting life depends on it, whether you believe you will be in heaven or earth, YOU MUST drink Christ's blood and eat his body to be resurrected on the last day. That is because eternal life is a hope only held out for Christians. See John 6:53-56;

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

If you have NOT recieved the spirit yet, although you asked for it, keep on asking, the Lord promises you WILL recieve it. You need to ask the Lord Jesus and he will send the spirit to you. Peace, Lilly

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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friends

this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

lovelylil

PC,

I just sent you a reply to your pm. Thank you for your support. Again I am really sorry I gave you a hard time. I thought you were the bully but now I can see you were only trying to protect others who were being bullied.

Rick is a spiritual bully, no better than the WT. If he only knew the extent of the damage he did to me and my family on Sunday, maybe he would feel some shame. You cannot set up and try to hurt honest people who are reaching out to you for spiritual support. I think Rick got hurt and is now hurting others. That is not right. If you are going to put yourself as head of a church as a pastor, you have a wieghtier accounting. You even learn this as a JW. You have some answering to do to the people you hurt.

In all my years of being a JW, I was never confronted in the kh by bullies. The witnesses I knew were much too nice to do this. As I said in my pm and I will say it here again publically, I am totally embarressed over this entire situation. So much so that I need to take a day or two to recoup my thoughts and settle my emotions. for now I feel I am acting just as bad as Rick and his group because I am acting out of hurt. Lilly

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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friends

this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

lovelylil

Mary keeps telling me I am giving her diareah, what the hell is that about?? I don't know this gal, is she mentally ill or something? I feel sorry for her if she is. I really do. I didn't know if she was joking with me, or telling me the truth. If I knew she was ill, I would never have raised my voice at the poor girl.

I don't think I was abusive at all to johnny or anyone else. I even said I was sorry if they got upset but I am simply skeptical. I have a right to be skeptical. I can't even listen to the thing anymore because I felt ambushed.

I didn't want to bring up proof about Johnnie during the call because I could see the spirit of the group was not good. I wanted to talk to Rick as a friend and warn him. Thats before the church incident. He still has not called me to see if I was ok. My hubby says he set me up. I didn't believe it at first, but now I do.

You know Rick, if you did set it up you should be ashamed of yourself. My husband Ray would never treat your dear wife like that. As a man he is highly offended.

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Studies

by cupcakekourtney88 in

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this past weekend i had a lot of questions answers and i have thought about if i wanna go all the way with studying with the jehovah witness'.

and i also been also talking to my mother (somewhat ex jw) and there are a lot of things the jw do that i don't agree with.

i have been thinking and well i am not going all the way trough with the jws.

lovelylil

cupcake,

Good for you. If you are interested you can take free bible classes here; www.onlinebiblecollege.com if you don't care if the classes are accredited, meaning you don't want a degree in theology, you can take the free classes. I would suggest the biblical studies courses first, they will give you a good basis in basic orthodox christianity. Then you can take other classes in Ministry, walking with Jesus and others.

The classes are very well written. Each lesson takes about an hour. Its go at your own pace and you get a certificate after finishing each section and a diploma after all courses. It will take about a year to finish but you will get a good bible education for free. Give them a try. I have take classes for years with the bible college. Peace to you, Lilly

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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friends

this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

lovelylil

PC,

You just made me laugh for the first time in 2 days. I have been mostly crying over this situation. This entire thing is very embarrasing to me. Even now I am laughing but with tears. But thanks for making me chuckle a little anyway. Lil

(edited to correct spelling)