It means whatever the hell you want it to mean.
Dedalus
dedalus
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what does this verse mean?
by evangelist incan someone from jhw tell me what this verse means to you?.
i ask other jhw and they told me this true god is the father god but if you read and study it carefully you can see plainly that the son jesus is the true one and only god jehovah.. what do you think?.
1jo:5:20: and we know that the son of god is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his son jesus christ.
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The "Tree" of WHAT?
by Farkel inthe account of adam and eve as a literal event is so full of logical contradictions that it is mind-boggling.
it only takes a minimum of scrutiny to discover that fact, too.. there is something god did not want adam and eve to know.
he didnt want them to know the difference between good and evil.
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I agree, Waiting.
The WTBTS once explained that God didn't bring Eve's pain to her - she received it when she became imperfect. Well, by taking away her perfection, God introduced her to pain for the rest of her life.
What AChristian suggested is that God gave us a sinful natute because he loves us, and so we need to be sinful to choose to love him back. That's a bit different from what the WTBTS teaches, but it's still pretty dumb, since we're punished for having sinful natures whether we're good or not.Take away the benefits you've given them - let them suffer. Teach them a lesson.
Yeah, reminds me of a quote from another thread, posted by Farkel:*** w54 1/15 57-62 Disciplining Children for Life ***
27 You parents know what you must do. You children know what you must do. Jehovah knows what he will do. If we obey him, he will do things for us. If we disobey him, he will do things to us.Nice stuff.
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Is homosexuality wrong?
by forgetmenot ini know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.
i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.
i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).
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Amen, Moe.
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The "Tree" of WHAT?
by Farkel inthe account of adam and eve as a literal event is so full of logical contradictions that it is mind-boggling.
it only takes a minimum of scrutiny to discover that fact, too.. there is something god did not want adam and eve to know.
he didnt want them to know the difference between good and evil.
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He doesn't punish us. He gives us all life. Every day of life is a gift.
He also gave us too many diseases to name, droughts and plagues and earthquakes and blizzards and mosquitoes and famines. Thanks, God!
God didn't punish Adam. He let him live out his entire natural life. He just did not reward him by letting him eat from the tree of life and then live forever.
God actively punished Adam, banning him from the Garden and from the tree of life, making the ground difficult for him to cultivate, making all his days back-breaking and unpleasant. He made childbearing painful and difficult for Eve and for women ever since. He punished children and grandchildren for the sins of their parents and grandparents. Today, we are "blessed" with disease and sickness, which, according to most Christians, is the result of the "sinful nature" you say he lovingly gave us.Have you guys even read the Bible?
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The "Tree" of WHAT?
by Farkel inthe account of adam and eve as a literal event is so full of logical contradictions that it is mind-boggling.
it only takes a minimum of scrutiny to discover that fact, too.. there is something god did not want adam and eve to know.
he didnt want them to know the difference between good and evil.
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Why did God give us a "sinful" nature? Because "God is love" He wanted to create people whom He could have a loving relationship with.
So why does God punish us for the sinful nature he lovingly gave us?
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TURN YOUR LETTER OF DA INTO THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER !
by new boy ininstead of turning in your letter of disassociation to the local kingdom hall you wrote and turned your letter in to the local newspaper.
why play my their rules?
besides you made a public baptism, why not make a public unbaptism?
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Given that most letters of disassociation are long-winded, self-important, melodramatic, and rather badly written, I really hope they wouldn't get published. But, if you're set on getting published and spreading the truth about the troof, why not write a simple, pithy letter to the editor, especially if you can make a connection to a (JW-related) article that newspaper has published. That way, your letter serves both the needs of the paper and the needs of the writer.
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Is homosexuality wrong?
by forgetmenot ini know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.
i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.
i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).
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dedalus
You know what's funny? If you express your opinion, you're only right if your post is what the reply-er agrees to!
"Tera, your dumb. Gay is right. Why? Cuz I said so!"Some opinions are dumb. They deserve to be called dumb.
Hmm..this thinking makes me think of....where was it... oh thats right! The kingdom halls! You just accept it, no questions asked, who cares if it makes no sense.
Are you arguing for a universe in which each opinion is equally valid? Should we embrace bigotry as enthusiastically as tolerance and understanding?I notice only certain ones are replying. It could be the lurkers are afraid of posting they think it's wrong. Because clearly, when surveys are done and the person stays anonymous, the majority disagrees with homosexuality. The ones for it feel a certain pride in saying 'look how educated and open minded we are'.
What surveys? Majority of whom? If the majority of a group believes something, does that make the belief correct? Oh, wait, this is you're "opinion" -- hands off!There are many things I would not like to open minded about. For example- there are groups headed by gay men like the Man/Boy group (or whatever the heck they're called) that want to make the legal age for having sex with boys younger than 18.
I've never heard of this. None of my gay friends have mentioned it. Are you sure this group exists, and if it does, do you think it represents the gay majority?It is no secret that most gay males favor and fantasize about young men, even boys.
You're a fucking idiot. Tell me, on what do you base this precious "opinion"?You cannot, will not, ever, cover this up and say it's all about 'love'.
More fucking idiocy. The evidence against this "opinion" of yours is so overwhelming and so public, it's a wonder you can make such a statement without thinking twice.How many gay men meet one man, stay committed with no outside partners for the rest of their life? I know many heterosexuals that do...but in the gay lifestyle it does- not- happen.
Proof? Evidence? No, wait, this is your "opinion" something you just made up and don't want challenged!Most heterosexuals I know go from "partner" to "partner" -- it's called dating. Most homosexual partners I know are in stable relationships and have been for many years. Not that you'll care one way or another, asshole.
The gay lifestyle is about going from person to person. You do not meet alot of straights that hang out in bath houses looking for a 'fix up'. There might be some, but it is not the norm. You will find this a common occurrence among gays. There are bathrooms where gays will anonymously have sex, not knowing their names. And this is 'love'? When people say God doesnt care who we love, thats a joke.
More bigoted Nazi bullshit. How's it feel to use the same propaganda tactics employed by Hitler? But hey, even Hitler was entitled to his opinions, right?
It's not about love. You can love anyone you want. When you take in an unhealthy lifestyle, there are reprecussions.My mother and father grew up in a small hometown where there was a small number of gays. They would dress up and hang out together.
NO WAY! You mean they ... dressed up ... and ... hung out ... together! The depravity!
My parents vividly recall them yelling at passerby, offering B.J.'s and cat calling men. They would hit on little boys, and a close friend of my mother's got sucked into the lifestyle. He admitted the gay men paid him for favors and she would see him riding around town with them, in a new car and new clothes.
Well, that proves it. The behavior of a few people is evidence for the behavior of all people. Of course, this story happens to conform to every stereotype of gay people, I can only imagine your parents making up shit to scare you with, so you wouldn't "turn out" gay yourself. Did they tell you that black people were lazy and stupid, because they knew some black lazy stupid people?Where is he now? He died of AIDS. My father even admitted to me that one of the gay men cornered him and molested him as he tried to get away. This is something I have never told anyone, but it shows the lifestyle and mentality of the 'gay' lifestyle. Anyone who denies it is in deep denial and needs help.
My bet is that your father, like you, is full of shit and is probably an asshole in denial about his own sexual identity. But even if his story is true, he's still an idiot and so are you for not being able to think beyond the surface of his narrative. Don't heterosexuals rape and molest people all the time??? Would it be fair to say that this is part of the "heterosexual lifestyle"?Do I have to tell every person my view? Of course not! Do gays deserve to live without harm? Of course!
How big of you.Am I wrong for having my own beliefs? Of course not!
Yes, you are. You need to be liberated from your opinions -- holding them doesn't make you right.Just because we're no longer Witnesses does not mean we throw all sense out the window.
Yes it does, if sense = hate and stupidity.'I've tried so hard, but in the end it doesnt even matter..' Linkin Park
What a lame fucking quote.Dedalus
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PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS
by QUEENIE ini would like to have platonic relaiionships with the opposite sex and then see where it goes from there but 4 now platonic is jst [email protected] i ain bad lookin for being 55 and slightly pleasing plump and wont break a mirror --- have a lovely sunday and happy easter too / peace
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I ain bad lookin for being 55 and slightly pleasing plump and wont break a mirror
Victoria fom GreatCrowd.net? Is that you? Or perhaps it's Boop? Or Jules? Or ... well, any female from GreatCrowd.net?
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Is homosexuality wrong?
by forgetmenot ini know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.
i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.
i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).
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I do not approve of it, mind you!!! Thats my personal view and I would do most things to steer my kids from a homosexual lifestyle!!!
While you're at it, why don't you steer your kids away from growing blonde hair or developing brown eyes?
Idiot.
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Is homosexuality wrong?
by forgetmenot ini know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.
i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.
i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).
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Is homosexuality wrong?
No.
Do you think that homosexuals are somehow broken and that they need to be fixed?
No.Do you think they are problems and they need to be solved?
No.Do you think that in the supposed "perfect" world/life/whatever you have after you die, there will be homosexuals?
Why the hell not?Or what do you think?
I think these are stupid fucking questions, that's what I think.
Dedalus