Yeah, what Ravyn said.
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JW's - Zeal Without Knowledge?
by Trotafox inhm-m-m-m-m-m. found this article.
the following is for those of us on the board who are ex-jw and still christian (i just know you ex-jw ex-christians are chompin' at the bit...i can feel it through my computer...okay, okay; you can comment).
anyway, i found this to be quite interesting.
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Labeling - generalizations - my struggle today
by Billygoat inwhy is there a basic human need to categorize people?
one is a jw or not.
athiest, agnostic, christian, or wiccan.
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Okay Billygoat, point taken, but Witnesses are still idiots, right?
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The PO and CO visit me....new light!!??
by truman ini am just going to have to start keeping my front door closed.
today, i had it open, and there was no way to pretend i wasn't home when the two 'brothers' rang my door bell.
actually, they had been by last saturday, too, but the door was closed that day, and i didn't answer it.
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Thanks, Pork Chop. Actually, I missed Blondie's Watchtower above, which pretty much says not every individual will be reached. I suppose it's interesting that some Witnesses (my mother) felt an urgency to be part of a work that reaches everybody. Maybe they meant everybody in North America -- those are the only people that matter anyway.
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The PO and CO visit me....new light!!??
by truman ini am just going to have to start keeping my front door closed.
today, i had it open, and there was no way to pretend i wasn't home when the two 'brothers' rang my door bell.
actually, they had been by last saturday, too, but the door was closed that day, and i didn't answer it.
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I can't believe you guys are so gullible and that you know so little of the organization's teachings on this matter. There is nothing new about this.
Please explain, Pork Chops. I don't want to be gullible!
So far as I'm aware, Witnesses believe that "the good news must be preached to all the peoples of all the nations, and then the end will come." Witness doctrine emphasizes the words I've italicized. The idea is that every person has to be reached so that no person can say, as his or her blood spills into the great river of death that is Armageddon, "I wasn't warned about this." My mother was a pioneer for over a decade, and this rhetoric is pretty familiar to me. I'm sure I could find articles in Watchtowers if I looked.
There's only one article I know of that addresses this question specifically (I can post some of it later, if anyone cares), and all it says is that Witnesses shouldn't worry about remote indigenous tribes or retarded people who, for obvious reasons, can't be reached with the "good news." Interestingly, the article does not say that Jehovah won't kill these people anyway; it simply tells Witnesses not to worry their silly heads about it.
Anyway, Pork Chops, I hope you can see that I'm interested in your point of view, if you can be bothered to explain it more. If I'm being gullible, I'd sure like to understand how.
Dedalus
P.S. It's possible, PC, that you agree with me about the above, and are questioning the Organizational authenticity of the CO and PO's remarks. In which case, I share some of your doubt.
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Have You Recieved Any Benefit From This Web Site???
by minimus inare you happier since you've found this place?
if jwd were gone tomorrow, would you just look for another site to get involved with?
my opinion of this board is that it is one of the best boards to learn current information from.
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Bollocks !
Hey! This from the man who made and is supposed to enforce the rule:
To ensure all users feel safe and keen to participate, please avoid: .... Swearing, using hate-speech or making obscene or vulgar comments.
British swearwords are okay, though? Or am I wrong, and "bollocks" isn't a swear? I always thought it was sort of like "bullshit."
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The PO and CO visit me....new light!!??
by truman ini am just going to have to start keeping my front door closed.
today, i had it open, and there was no way to pretend i wasn't home when the two 'brothers' rang my door bell.
actually, they had been by last saturday, too, but the door was closed that day, and i didn't answer it.
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Again:
He also stated that the new current understanding is that it is not to be expected that the witnessing work by JWs will penetrate into all corners of the earth, or that each individual will personally get a 'witness', just that the message will be proclaimed worldwide.
I'm still wondering if there a published source for this "new light," or if it's just some self-important CO spouting off his own brand of Witness swill. Of course this is all very interesting, but it only really matters if it becomes the Organization's official stance on the matter, and is represented as such in its literature.
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The PO and CO visit me....new light!!??
by truman ini am just going to have to start keeping my front door closed.
today, i had it open, and there was no way to pretend i wasn't home when the two 'brothers' rang my door bell.
actually, they had been by last saturday, too, but the door was closed that day, and i didn't answer it.
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He also stated that the new current understanding is that it is not to be expected that the witnessing work by JWs will penetrate into all corners of the earth, or that each individual will personally get a 'witness', just that the message will be proclaimed worldwide.
Is there a published source for this "new light"?
That would be a major change from an essential Witness doctrine.
How many times did my mother’s eyes -- with so many other Witnesses -- turn heavenward as she quietly chanted, "This good news will be preached in all the inhabited earth, and then the end will come," and with a forlorn look she only now understands she had, pile into a beat-up jalopy with a posse of dreary Witnesses to unload in suburbia the rag-worn “latest issues” ? Too many to count. She did nearly every day of the week, with the heavy conviction that it had to be done, if she would ever see paradise.
Seems to me there was also some nonsense rhetoric about animated rocks that would somehow deliver the "good news" if Witnesses didn't, so fierce was the Mighty Jah's determination that every single person be reached. Wouldn't it be a shame, the rhetoric went, if Jehovah had to resort to using rocks because we, his chosen human servants, had failed?
What a weird religion.
Dedalus, still curious about the "official" stance on all this
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Here it is, a heated debate! The end of fluff!
by dedalus in.
this is my daughter -- not exactly a recent picture, but a hilarious one.. .
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Thanks, everyone!
Dedalus
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Why the need for such language anyway,did you have a bad day ? Can't you ask things in a nicer way,no?
My apologies. It's pretty cool that I got edited, though! Dedalus
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Have You Recieved Any Benefit From This Web Site???
by minimus inare you happier since you've found this place?
if jwd were gone tomorrow, would you just look for another site to get involved with?
my opinion of this board is that it is one of the best boards to learn current information from.
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Robdar,
Shoot, we're getting all warm and fuzzy now. My wife doesn't like these boards too much -- she's the remarkable sort of ex-JW who has actually moved on with her life without all kinds of weird hang-ups.
Thanks for the compliment about my daughter.
Dedalus